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Post by rose35 on Apr 27, 2010 18:34:12 GMT -5
Hi all! I'm opening up this thread. Hope someone can post few questions to get us started. This one can get us all riled up i bet LOL Well i'll try to be back later. Off to finish up my stuff here .
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Post by lin212 on Apr 27, 2010 18:50:02 GMT -5
Here's one.
This episode opens with Maddie watching 3 classic films. Do you think the selection of these particular films was random or do you see any similarities in the relationships of the lead characters in each film and David and Maddie?
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Post by lin212 on Apr 27, 2010 18:54:55 GMT -5
And here's another:
At the end of the episode, do you think that David regretted and was ashamed of his behavior?
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Post by jpen on Apr 27, 2010 19:08:51 GMT -5
You're right, Rose...this one does get me riled! (Though not nearly the apoplexy I suffer in the Annie arc! ) In any case, here are a few questions: 1. What do you think is Maddie's state of mind when she turns off the TV? 2. Do you see any relationship between the brief movie clips, and Alex & Virginia's "turn the bed around" scene? 3. During all of Alex's scenes in this episode, I really starting thinking about the similarities between he and David...and, in particular, how David might handle a conflict like this with his own daughter. Any thoughts? 4. Agnes is so great in her first scene: "You know how it is sometimes when you try everything you think of to make something happen, only nothing you do works?" What do you think is David's state of mind after this conversation, and after discovering MacGillicudy and Viola in Maddie's office? 5. What does the "Steak a la Dave" phone message tell us about the state of David and Maddie's relationship before she left? Do you think this supports or conflicts with what we saw in "Trip to the Moon"? 6. The towel scene is, in my opinion, Herbert Viola's shining (if drippy) moment. Any comments on his speech and David's reaction? 7. What about David's thoughts at the end, as he walks down that nearly deserted boulevard? And the burning question (s): 8. Why does Maddie leave that message for Agnes? Would she have told David about the pregnancy if he had answered the phone?
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Post by jpen on Apr 27, 2010 19:38:31 GMT -5
Here's one. This episode opens with Maddie watching 3 classic films. Do you think the selection of these particular films was random or do you see any similarities in the relationships of the lead characters in each film and David and Maddie? Oh, definitely not random! ;D The first clip is from The Philadelphia Story, which features Grant and Hepburn as a divorced, but still bantering, couple. They couldn't make it work the first time, but eventually, love triumphs. Grant is the easy-living, jolly playboy, while Hepburn is the fiery society gal (he calls her "Red"). (And by the way, if you've somehow never seen this...hie thee to a library or Netflix and get it as soon as you can!! ;D) The second and third clips I can't identify (I'm sure someone here can, though ), but both have connections to David and Maddie's situation. In the second clip, the woman comments that, though they're both so much in love, one of them needs to be the rational one--exactly what Maddie thinks she's doing by coming to Chicago. And again, the couple in the third clip seem very David and Maddie--he's teasing her about her feelings, while she protests, saying, "I'm just used to you!"...before flinging herself at him. I think these little moments are so great--really add to the depth of the story, as well as demonstrate Glenn's love of classic films.
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Post by graycav56 on Apr 27, 2010 19:40:16 GMT -5
Here's one. This episode opens with Maddie watching 3 classic films. Do you think the selection of these particular films was random or do you see any similarities in the relationships of the lead characters in each film and David and Maddie? Oh, definitely not random! ;D The first clip is from The Philadelphia Story, which features Grant and Hepburn as a divorced, but still bantering, couple. They couldn't make it work the first time, but eventually, love triumphs. Grant is the easy-living, jolly playboy, while Hepburn is the fiery society gal (he calls her "Red"). (And by the way, if you've somehow never seen this...hie thee to a library or Netflix and get it as soon as you can!! ;D) The second and third clips I can't identify (I'm sure someone here can, though ), but both have connections to David and Maddie's situation. In the second clip, the woman comments that, though they're both so much in love, one of them needs to be the rational one--exactly what Maddie thinks she's doing by coming to Chicago. And again, the couple in the third clip seem very David and Maddie--he's teasing her about her feelings, while she protests, saying, "I'm just used to you!"...before flinging herself at him. I think these little moments are so great--really add to the depth of the story, as well as demonstrate Glenn's love of classic films. Bingo! I think we all know that NOTHING in this series was EVER random...at least not for the first 3 1/2 seasons! The choice of those films was indeed inspired.
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Post by beesnbears on Apr 27, 2010 19:40:36 GMT -5
Here's one. This episode opens with Maddie watching 3 classic films. Do you think the selection of these particular films was random or do you see any similarities in the relationships of the lead characters in each film and David and Maddie? Oh, I definitely think they picked these movies on purpose. There are tons of similarites: The screwball comedy, of course, but also the whole idea of tossing golf clubs, breaking things, grabbing the onme you love and kissing them, etc.. And then two quotes that were obvious for me: (paraphrasing) "I don't care. It's just that I'm used to you, that's all." And my favorite: "I am in love and I think you are to. It's just that one of us has to think and keep things clear." ;D ** See jpen's post above!!
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Post by graycav56 on Apr 27, 2010 19:41:20 GMT -5
And here's another: At the end of the episode, do you think that David regretted and was ashamed of his behavior? Heck no! That girl was HOTTTT!! Sorry, he may have been second guessing, but I don't think he got to the point of regret yet. Besides...that girl was hot!
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Post by beesnbears on Apr 27, 2010 19:42:22 GMT -5
And here's another: At the end of the episode, do you think that David regretted and was ashamed of his behavior? I think he just felt empty. As much as I hate to say it, it was only sex to him. With Maddie...the earth moved! On some level I think he regretted it, but not so sure he was ashamed.
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Post by graycav56 on Apr 27, 2010 19:43:45 GMT -5
1. What do you think is Maddie's state of mind when she turns off the TV?
I think she was looking at the TV as an escape from her reality, when it turned out to be just a reflection of what she was living...thus the off button came in handy there!
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Post by graycav56 on Apr 27, 2010 19:45:56 GMT -5
2. Do you see any relationship between the brief movie clips, and Alex & Virginia's "turn the bed around" scene?
Umm, I did not see any relationship, but I'm sure one of you folks will enlighten me.
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Post by beesnbears on Apr 27, 2010 19:46:22 GMT -5
Hi Gray!!!! So, so glad you are back!
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Post by beesnbears on Apr 27, 2010 19:48:33 GMT -5
1. What do you think is Maddie's state of mind when she turns off the TV?I think she was looking at the TV as an escape from her reality, when it turned out to be just a reflection of what she was living...thus the off button came in handy there! Yep, what he said! She looked really annoyed at the TV, like it was telling her exactly what she was thinking!
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Post by graycav56 on Apr 27, 2010 19:50:02 GMT -5
3. During all of Alex's scenes in this episode, I really starting thinking about the similarities between he and David...and, in particular, how David might handle a conflict like this with his own daughter. Any thoughts?
I think Alex and David are products of their generations. Alex, in his conversation with Virginia, refers to "women's things"...those great mysteries of the mind and body that men cannot hope to understand. David on the other hand, seems to think he has the female gender all figured out. Except for one blondie blonde of course. They both care deeply for Maddie, but neither has as of yet figured out how to get her to open up to them.
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Post by graycav56 on Apr 27, 2010 19:51:04 GMT -5
Hi Gray!!!! So, so glad you are back! Great to BE back! Missed you guys!
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