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Post by willisgirl on Apr 18, 2006 20:02:07 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed that he always opens the car door first to let Maddie get into the car then he'd go around to the other side of the car to get into the car. Wow, such a gentleman!!
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Post by queensgirl on Apr 19, 2006 9:03:40 GMT -5
I was wondering, which one of them usually winds up driving? I don't have a running count or anything. It just popped into my head when I watched "Next Murder You Hear" the other day. Inter'sting.
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Post by Sakura on Apr 22, 2006 9:45:34 GMT -5
Speaking of David beeing a gentleman,in "Take My Wife,For Example",when Maddie and David are investigate Nathan Kraft,about if he's in love with another person,the recepcionist(or the golden digger,as Maddie calls to her) appears and then the man,Nathan Kraft,pulls the chair for the woman,and then Maddie says:"David,you pull me the chair,lots of times"
What you say?
Sakura
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Post by nurok on Apr 22, 2006 11:39:59 GMT -5
There was in my childhood a case, at school: Teacher: Why the girls stands, really in a class there are no gentlemans? Boy: There are gentlemans, but chairs don't suffice. Why I have recollected it?
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Post by callmeditzy on Sept 10, 2008 18:59:53 GMT -5
This is one of the things I noticed for the first time as I rewatched from the pilot. For as lude and obnoxious as he can be, he really is a gentleman with the small gestures. He instinctively pulls out Maddie's chair many times, without making a big show about it. He almost always holds the door and gives that little "after you" gesture.
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Post by bluemooner on Sept 11, 2008 9:20:52 GMT -5
He really is a sweet and caring man even though he tries to hide it somethimes.
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Post by callmeditzy on Sept 11, 2008 15:26:29 GMT -5
And hot. You left out 'hot', bluemooner.
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Post by bluemooner on Sept 12, 2008 16:49:48 GMT -5
LOL how could I have done that? shame on me!
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Post by lin212 on Sept 12, 2008 18:29:54 GMT -5
So right, callmeditzy and bluemooner. Despite everything, our hero is such a traditionalist at heart - gestures like this as well his religious beliefs. He is so complex and has so many layers. The writers did a fantastic job to make sure that he was not a one-dimensional character and Bruce did a superb job of creating a person who still seems real to this day.
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Post by bluemooner on Sept 14, 2008 10:53:54 GMT -5
well put, Lin.
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Post by beesnbears on Sept 15, 2008 9:56:07 GMT -5
Wait......WHAT?!?! David Addison only SEEMS real!! I'm devastated!! LOL!!
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Post by maddieson on Dec 6, 2012 14:30:16 GMT -5
Despite everything, our hero is such a traditionalist at heart - gestures like this [...] For me, he's a fascinating character because he embodies a very '80s sort of masculinity which both repulses me (because of the politics behind it) and intrigues me (because I want to make sense of the logic and contradiction behind it). Which is fitting because repulsion/fascination is Maddie's general attitude toward David as well. On the one hand, you have the "macho" front. It's the Reagan generation of "tough" men, in contrast with the "soft", "feminine" men of the '70s. It's a return of the cowboy/outlaw, both aesthetically and politically. Gone are the "soft" men of the previous decade, the "losers" who fled the draft to Canada and "lost" the war, men who tried to reason with the rhetoric behind war and who protested against the war on university campuses. In are the men who "won" the war in movies (thus re-writing history) with their bare hands and physical strength. Gone are the "effeminate", anti-war men of the Vietnam era, in are the pro-war men of Iran-Contra and Cambodia era. Think of the names you associate with '80s masculinity and Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone are bound to pop up. On the other hand, we are meant to believe that the tough man facade is only that (a facade), and that what these men really want to be is a gentleman who treats his lady like a lady. He'll fight for her, provide for her and protect her. He's the perfect gentleman, a throwback to the era of Cary Grant and men in a suit and a hat. Think of the male protagonists in '80s teen comedies. Watch the movie "Road House" with Patrick Swayze and you have that contradiction of macho/gentleman, hypermasculine/sensitive in full swing. He embodies that contradiction better than any '80s actor I've seen. He has long hair because guys in glam rock and heavy metal have long hair (think Mel Gibson in "Lethal Weapon"). Long hair is a sign of their manhood/masculinity (they can be "manly" with long hair, which is supposed to be "feminine", and yet they make it look "masculine"). In the movie, he kicks ass all around. And yet he also pins for the woman and is a gentleman. As for David, think of the scene where Maddie and David have 1 minute to kill before the show starts in season 2. David is wearing a white "McMaho" headband, and yet he's also wearing a white shirt, a tie, and suit pants. A perfect embodiment of that contradiction. Also, he's supposedly "macho", but he's more in tune with his emotions than Maddie. Or the scene where he comes back from Mexico (I think) and tries to show off before Maddie, whereas he's really miserable. Or the numerous times he makes sexist remarks, whereas what he means for them to communicate is genuine affection. It took me a long time to come to terms with '80s masculinity because it underestimates/undermines women by putting them on a pedestal and idealizing them (virgin-whore binary at work, black and white thinking, either she's a virgin or a whore), but I'm almost there.
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