snappysara
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Post by snappysara on Sept 6, 2011 16:52:55 GMT -5
Hahahahaha some great loves and don't loves there!! Lots of memories. Keep 'em coming folks!!
I LOVE DAVID when he is telling Mary a joke to cheer her up in Twas the episode before Christmas. I DONT LOVE DAVID when he mindlessly smashes up the car.
I LOVE MADDIE when she tells Agnes 'the truth is - they're both really great' in I am Curious Maddie. I DONT LOVE MADDIE when she tells him to 'put some shoes on' a little later in that episode......grrrr More like get that T shirt off..... THUD.
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Post by sandra on Sept 6, 2011 17:33:33 GMT -5
OK here's a few others:
I don't love the scene when David says "C'mere" to Jillian in "Knowing her".
I don't love Maddie when she tells David "We're a bad habit."
I do love Maddie when she fishes one of David's dumped businesscards out of the wastebin: "Lady gets in trouble, it's nice to know she has somebody to call."
I do love David when he says about Agnes "The night before DiPesto was born, God went to a great party."
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Post by iluvdavid on Sept 6, 2011 18:47:31 GMT -5
I dislike David when he doesn't want to take Maddie to the funeral with him in "Big Man on Mulberry Street" I love David when he is explaining to Maddie how he wound up married in the same episode. I like Maddie when she doesn't say anything to David when she knows he is lying ie. "Big Man on Mulberry Street" when he lies about going to the funeral and 'The Son Also Rises" when he lies about talking to his dad. I dislike Maddie when she says "I'm not sad" in "When Girls Collide"
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witness
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Post by witness on Sept 7, 2011 0:00:43 GMT -5
I thought of a couple on my own (well, with treasmus' help) for "I don't love David when":
in Portrait of Maddie, just having sweetly discussed Philip Wright with her, as Maddie's walking out the door says "One little suicide and there's no talkin' to you!"
in "And the Flesh was Made Word" he keeps shouting at Mary, "Don't! Stop!" when she's making multiple attempts to harm herself and Maddie has to force him to help her. That whole sequence has always bothered me.
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Post by diane on Sept 7, 2011 0:38:36 GMT -5
I really don't like that I was away for 24 hours, and you guys stole some of my best answers. However, I am sure I will refocus and come up a with a few in the morning.
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Post by sandra on Sept 7, 2011 2:56:23 GMT -5
Witness, like you, I'm having major problems here... but I got one more:
I don't like David when he screws up the client's appointment in "Big Man".
I don't like Maddie when she demands from David "Can't you find anything nice to say?!" (about her Vegas marriage)
I love Maddie when she "saves" David from firing the two employees in "My fair David".
I love David when, in "Funeral for a doornail", Maddie tells him she needs a favor, and he, without any hesitation, simply replies: "Done."
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goldilocks
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 7, 2011 5:26:25 GMT -5
Wow love your choices girls! Here are some more from me too: I really DO love Maddie when she says that David is like the first kiss all the time in "Tracks of My Tears." I really DO love David when he says "C'mon now" and gives Maddie a hand in "Maddie Hayes got married." I really DO NOT love Maddie when she hits her father with that purse in the "Every Daughter's Father is a Virgin." I really DO NOT love David when he missed the lunch with Maddie in the "Sleep Talking Guy", he just forgot about her...
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Post by sandra on Sept 7, 2011 5:42:03 GMT -5
I really DO NOT love David when he missed the lunch with Maddie in the "Sleep Talking Guy", he just forgot about her... Oh good point!! I totally forgot this one!
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Post by diane on Sept 7, 2011 9:34:06 GMT -5
Some off the top of my head......
I can't even think until I do the very worst one.
I DON'T LIKE David when he says "get out of my bed"....I know it's a repeat (Of Wim's...I'm not surprised!)...but it is the most horrible thing said in the whole show.
I LOVE when David says "It wouldn't be a heaven without you."
I DO NOT LIKE Maddie and the whole " white stuff in your coffee speech" Sorry, it's just lame.
I LOVE Maddie in "It's a Wonderful Job", when she say "I miss David"....and later when she fights with Albert to get her life back.
I DON"T LIKE David when he tells Annie he doesn't mind that she is married.
I LOVE LOVE David in the whole Father Knows Last plane scene, expecially when he says "Mr Hayes, I would give up my life for her."
I DON'T LIKE like Maddie when she say "Well, I feel empty inside.
I LOVE Maddie when she says "We solved a mystery!"
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snappysara
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Post by snappysara on Sept 7, 2011 16:09:31 GMT -5
Oooooooooooooo some more good ones!!!!
Diane - what's this white stuff in your coffee speech??? Can't locate that in my head?
'wouldn't be a heaven one' is one of the nice ones of the later episodes!!
Goldie - i think Maddie is funny when she hits her dad but I can see why you don't like it. She can be quite violent at times hahaha!
I Love Maddie when she says that David is like a gyroscope - 'there's something in side' in the confession box I love David when he is being silly in the van in 'Maddie's turn to cry'
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Post by iluvdavid on Sept 7, 2011 16:41:16 GMT -5
Love when David asks Maddie "Are we having fine yet?" In "Symphony in Knocked Flat" Hate when David lets Sam beat him up in "Sam and Dave"
Love when Maddie hugs David cause they finally made money in "Portrait of Maddie" Hate when Maddie keeps trying to make pacts and tells David they made a mistake in "To Heiress Human"
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Post by beesnbears on Sept 7, 2011 17:37:43 GMT -5
I LOVE Maddie when she smooths things over with her dad in "Every Father's ..."
I LOVE Maddie when she tells David to get that locker room grin off his face in the Pilot.
I don't like it when Maddie makes David be all serious and mature in "My Fair David."
I LOVE David when he stands up to Maddie in "Man Who Cried..." in an effort to figure out why she won't take the case.
I LOVE David when he comes to her house in "Atlas Belched" because he didn't know where else to go.
I don't like it when David tells MAddie she's like a person on a poster looking for another person on a poster in "I Am Curious..."
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treasmus
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Post by treasmus on Sept 8, 2011 7:12:50 GMT -5
1. I love the scene towards the end of "Lunar Eclipse" where Maddie and David are sitting at the altar and having their last conversation in the series. It's not so much a conversation as it is a Maddie monologue with David chiming in once or twice. It's such a perfectly bittersweet scene. Maddie says she expected it to be different, while David says he didn't think about it at all. Even with everything they've done, you just know Maddie expected more, whence the bitter part come from. She starts saying "If we could just have these five years to do over again maybe we could..." That's Maddie, always expecting a lot from herself and automatically assuming (or even demanding that) everybody else should also do their best at all times; always thinking she could do better than that. But I love it that she trails off and instead acknowledges everything she's been through with David, as well as being hopeful about the future, whence the sweet part comes from. It's such a perfect Maddie moment because it stays true to her essence as a character (she's never satisfied because she expects a lot from herself and everybody else), but it also shows how much she's grown because instead of spoiling the moment and making it seem like she has regrets, she stops herself and says she couldn't imagine not seeing David the next day. I love that scene because it has Maddie going against her natural impulse to beat herself up over things, complain, and drag everybody else down with her*. It's a bit off David that's rubbed off on her. And I love it that David is serious and stays quiet during the entire scene, and doesn't make any jokes or inappropriate comments. That's a bit of Maddie that's rubbed off on him. I love it that Maddie stops saying what she was about to say and instead honors their shared past and hints at the future. I love it that, as tired and as resigned they both look in that scene (especially David), they both proceed with a genuine sweetness and caring. I love it that Maddie grabs David's hand and holds it the entire time while she's talking.
2. I love the clip montage that comes right after, featuring some of Maddie and David's best moments in the series. I love the Ray Charles song that starts playing during the altar scene and keeps playing during the clip montage because it adds exactly the kind of bittersweet touch both scenes need. It's a perfect bridge between the two scenes because it's basically Maddie's speech in song form. The music perfectly compliments the clips during the montage because it's both nostalgic and hopeful. The song works like a tinge of nostalgia for a couple (and a show) that was once as good as they got, but ran out of steam somewhere along the way and wasn't able to recapture its old rhythm, no matter how hard it tried. But the lyrics acknowledge and honor the past ("memories I'll treasure forever"), while also hinting at the future ("We'll be together again"). This sense of bittersweetness is established in the altar scene when Maddie makes her speech about her and David's past and their future, and it is carried over into the clip montage. I love that. What makes the montage even more bittersweet is that it shows Maddie and David at their absolute best, but it's set against an episode that is so anti-climatic, except for the altar scene.
And I love it that the series really has two endings: Maddie's speech and the close up on Maddie in the altar scene, and David's wave in the clip montage. As bad as the show got sometimes, it never forgot its twofold perspective that made it great to begin with. All in all, I think it was a great way to end a great series.
*Which really has to do with her desire to always do her best and not being satisfied when she feels like she didn't quite get there.
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1987
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Post by 1987 on Sept 8, 2011 8:32:59 GMT -5
This was really great Treasmus. I always love to read other's interpretation of that last scene. You made me see it in a different way. The show opened up with Maddie's story and ended with a different, softer Maddie. It always bothered me that David said no words, but with your explanation, I accept this better.
Bittersweet is the best way to describe it. I've always thought the ending was hopeful too. And it's taken a long time, but I do love that Ray Charles song.
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1987
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Post by 1987 on Sept 8, 2011 8:47:52 GMT -5
I LOVE David when he is drunk at the bar blabbering on about how one of the 3 girls hitting on him must go home because he's an "old-fashioned guy".
I LOVE Maddie when she hysterically runs from the Murray's garage stolen car with her big purse protecting her head from the "bomb". Panicky Maddie is adorable.
I don't like when David doesn't speak now and forever holds his peace.
I don't like when Maddie says "no thanks" to David's offer to steer her pelvis around the dance floor more in the future.
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