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Post by adyjdy on Jan 21, 2006 2:22:39 GMT -5
Okay, posted my reply under Member discussions, Understanding Season 4 Maddie. It is depressing... might take a shot of whiskey before plowing through it.
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Post by queensgirl on Jan 21, 2006 2:28:34 GMT -5
Make mine vodka.
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Post by gamera on Mar 9, 2006 14:36:20 GMT -5
pure and simple, an excellent episode. Probably the best Maddie episode i have seen so far. I admit that i began to tear up when Maddie had the final conversation with her dad in the hotel room. Well acted, I gave this episode a 10
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Post by Veronica on Mar 31, 2006 13:42:07 GMT -5
I really really like this episode. Cybill was great !
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Post by queensgirl on May 24, 2006 9:30:52 GMT -5
I have to wonder if part of Mr. Hayes' reaction to David's behavior in Father Knows Last is regret at how he nearly destroyed his own marriage. He learned a lot of bitter lessons about guilt and having to put things back together. Must be some of his anger at the threat to his daughter's well-being stems from the knowledge of how his actions hurt his daughter and his wife in this one. Mr. Hayes had to understand that he had become a bad picture of a husband and a father, so he was doubly sensitive to what happened to his daughter later on.
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Post by skipsquat on Mar 13, 2007 12:45:26 GMT -5
Another one of my favorites. Cybill's performance in this one is so real and so vulnerable, and she works so beautifully with Eva Marie Saint and Robert Webber (perfect casting, by the way). And, of course, can't forget the Padre. *L* Bruce provided the perfect balance to an otherwise serious episode. I love it and give it a 10.
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on May 6, 2007 21:11:29 GMT -5
I'm not ready to vote on this one because I need to see it again - which won't be anytime soon. I also need to catch up with this thread.
Anyway, one thing that bothers me is Maddie repeatedly hitting her father with her purse until he is on the ground. I realize she is upset and I could see her telling on him if he didn't promise to end his adulterous relationship, but no child ever has the right to strike their parents for any reason except self-defense. I was very uncomfortable with what to me was Maddie's physical abuse of and fundamental disrespect for a parent who apparently was an otherwise good man and a good father to Maddie.
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Johanna
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Post by Johanna on May 30, 2007 10:57:49 GMT -5
A very emotional episode I hadn't rated yet. David being there for Maddie, offering to be her detective (not buying her underwear) is nice, until he couldn't let it be nice. Well, it's still nice, and very sweet. <3 IMO Maddie's parents are (both in this episode and in the later ones) a bit too hung up on appearance. They don't like to bring up things in the open if that will make them seem not perfect. Meeting the parents makes us understand Maddie a bit more, always appreciated. Oooooh, I love how this episodes opens, David and Maddie reading letters from the fans! What else would people write them about, except when they would 'smarten it up and get it on'? ;D No kiss yet, but soon...
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Post by lucy on May 30, 2007 11:28:57 GMT -5
that's true jo... ;D david doesn't know (yet) when of if they're gonna kiss,but watching the episode now (knowing what would happen next) the bumper scene is so funny!anyway...this is certainly one of the best episode of the second season because has plenty of funny moments as well as emotional ones!i think deserves an 9...
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Post by Frontier on Jun 28, 2007 11:32:06 GMT -5
An extremely sentimental episode and an awesome performance by Cybill.
I could have given it a 10, but I didn't like the scene where Maddie hits her father, that was not right. Even she was upset about it, she had no right to hit her father.
9.
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Post by lin212 on Aug 15, 2007 10:37:30 GMT -5
I watched this episode again last night. It is one of my favorites. I love the banter ("100 Hail Mary material", "a scarred psyche is like a used Pinto - nothing you can do with it!", "Plan B" and "You've got a mouth and tongue, what do you think they're there for - besides that, I mean"), love Robert Webber and Eva Marie Sainte, love the music, and I love David's protective attitude toward Maddie. I must admit that it ticks me off every time I watch the scene near the end where Maddie walks into the office and David asks her how it went and she just breezes past him with "It went fine" and shuts the door. Poor David - but he doesn't let it get to him. I guess he understands how she is - just as she understands how he is.
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Post by beesnbears on Mar 13, 2008 19:47:35 GMT -5
One of Cybill's very best performances. The commentary is really good, as well. GGC states that for being so early in the show that the characters had already reached a certain depth. Well, we all know that to be true.
Cybill really was attuned to Maddie, I think. I found it interesting that she initially did not want to do the "purse pelting" with Robert Weber. Seems that maybe she was uncomfortable with the thought of hitting her "father" .
Really wished they had listened to her input more as far as some choices MAddie made later on.
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Post by joe on Sept 19, 2010 3:14:08 GMT -5
My only regret is that I can only give this episode a 10, because this one goes waaaaay over the scale . This is an fantastic episode from the beginning with the "fan mail", the music, the story and the acting. Incredible ! Watch out for the eyes in this episode, you could watch it without dialogue and still understand what was happening. Eva Marie Sainte (who was beautiful - she reminded me so much of my dear mother) and Robert Webber are absolutely outstanding in this episode and they continue to be so throughout the 4th season...but that's another story. I've said it before - Moonlighting is about LOVE. There was so much love coming from this episode that it was pouring from the tv screen. Shame you can't bottle it and give it away because we sure need it in today's world. This episode had love, truth, honesty, and forgiveness. How can you not love Moonlighting !!
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Post by sandra on Dec 18, 2010 17:29:52 GMT -5
A clear 10 from me.
Best performance of Cybill so far, I think.Bruce is brilliant, too, of course. The characters develop a great deal. This ep made me cry.
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Post by dedaved on Jun 26, 2012 0:43:15 GMT -5
Rating 10This could very well be my favourite episode period. This is one of the early episodes that made it clear to the world that what Moonlighting is about is anything BUT being a conventional detective show. The "case" so to speak is an unraveling relationship between a woman and the most important man in her life. When a girl grows up to learn that her father isn't perfect is explored with such honesty and deftness. I can't even begin to get into the perfect casting of Mr and Mrs Hayes but let's just all agree that Eve Marie Saint and Robert Weber (R.I.P.) were just too wonderful and utterly believable for words and leave it at that. You need an extra incentive to watch Season 4 I give you these two wonderful actors. Anyway the sequence where David follows Mr. Hayes to the tune of Papa was a rolling Stone is a classic scene and one of David's finest "sleuthing" hours, mainly because there was a lot at stake: Maddie. Whatever he found out it was up to him to break the news to the woman he would do anything to protect. You can see his heart breaking when Maddie walks away from him after he says the words "I'm sorry Maddie." This scene is a killer. The scene where Maddie beats the snot out of her dad in the parking lot is a killer. The scene where they make up is a killer. This episode is emotionally draining in the most wonderful way. I can see a lot of my sister in Maddie in terms of her adoration and unconditional love for our father: a deeply flawed but devoted Dad. She is very much Daddy's little girl and like Maddie whenever this bubble is popped it is devastating to her. This one gets to me so much.
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