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Post by lin212 on Mar 17, 2009 20:23:26 GMT -5
Q1: The Teenymobile in this episode is actually a Yugoslavian built Yugo GV, imported to the US for several years starting in 1985. It was notoriously unreliable and dangerous. It was joked that they put in the heated rear window to keep your hands warm while you pushed it. What was the worst car YOU ever owned? Q2: One of the themes of this episode centers around gift giving. We see Nathan Craft going all out in purchasing gifts for his girlfriend. Did anyone ever purchase an expensive gift or gifts in an attempt to gain your favor? Did it work? Did YOU ever try it on someone else? How did THAT work out? What did you think of David's reaction to Maddie's gift? For the first question, I guess I'll have to reply "N/A" because I never really owned a crappy car. Of course, there was that Chevy Vega that my ex owned back in the day. Now that was one disasterous vehicle! I don't have an answer for the second question either. I don't recall ever receiving a lavish gift meant to impress and I don't think I ever gave one. I'll keep chewing on this one, however, just in case something comes to mind.  |
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Post by sinceifell4u on Mar 17, 2009 20:28:47 GMT -5
Q1: The Teenymobile in this episode is actually a Yugoslavian built Yugo GV, imported to the US for several years starting in 1985. It was notoriously unreliable and dangerous. It was joked that they put in the heated rear window to keep your hands warm while you pushed it. What was the worst car YOU ever owned? Yeah, the teeny mobile was pretty crappy lookin', the horn was horribly wimply and OMG, how did they sit in that car~no doubt Bruce lost a couple more strands from the ceiling rubbing! The worst car I've owned was actually the most modern (The year of the car was actually the current year) It was a 2003 Chevy Cavaliar, green~I wrecked it, twice...so dam unreliable the way it knocked into other cars, lol~funny question ;D Q2: One of the themes of this episode centers around gift giving. We see Nathan Craft going all out in purchasing gifts for his girlfriend. A. Did anyone ever purchase an expensive gift or gifts in an attempt to gain your favor? B. Did it work? C. Did YOU ever try it on someone else? D. How did THAT work out? E. What did you think of David's reaction to Maddie's gift? A. Yes, as they should have, lol B. Which time? (lol, I know I'm incredibly humble right?) Humm, I don't know, lol but I never forget any genuine act of kindness. C. No, I am a giver so I expect to receive as such; I'm not good at kissing up. I only give from my heart and my desire to Bless. D. n/a E. So funny, he did really well concealing his disdain for it; although he had that "vomit" tear in his eye. David's reaction allowed Maddie's thought to overshadow the horror of his "yugo", lol. That's funny by itself; when you think of David Addison, you DO NOT think "yugo"! Q3: One common complaint about the Season 5 writing is that it is no longer true to David and Maddie’s characters. Overall, how do you feel this episode ranks in that department? This is one of the better season 5 eps...I can't really rank the M & D scale, it has its moments though. Q4: What, if any, significance do you find in Betty Russell’s heart attack/epiphany? (And Colleen Dewhurst just rocks, doesn’t she?) Yes, I admire Collen's work and her voice; her and Lauren Bacall have the sexist rasp, oh and Suzette Pleshette. I believe Betty Russell's epiphany was an indication of how short life is and what really matters at the end of the day. The rhyme and reason, the drive for success; what does it all matter when you're gone? The only thing she could concentrate on was the love she didn't have...children...although a great career legacy; she had no intimate one. The writers could have used that more for Maddie and David to receive an epiphany about the importance of love and how it overcomes all. Q5: David does not want to take a job “crowbarring relationships…day in, day out.” Maddie guesses this is because his own marriage ended badly, but it’s pretty obvious that she’s wrong. What do you think really bothers David about being on divorce detail? David's sour attitude displays a bitter man who may be forced to deal with his own failed relationships. The why's, the lies...he doesn't want to constantly think of his pattern, especially with Maddie; he's still hurting. |
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Post by graycav56 on Mar 17, 2009 20:31:00 GMT -5
Q10. And finally…THE KISS: significant or just a tease? Pretend you are the Head Writer in charge of Continuity (HA! HA!). How would YOU start the next episode?
With jet fighters…or pirate ships…no, in the Roman Coliseum with lions and gladiators…wait, how about at a frat party!
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Post by lin212 on Mar 17, 2009 20:32:42 GMT -5
Q5: David does not want to take a job “crowbarring relationships…day in, day out.” Maddie guesses this is because his own marriage ended badly, but it’s pretty obvious that she’s wrong. What do you think really bothers David about being on divorce detail? I have to admit that I don't understand David's response at all. His marriage never was an issue in the past so I am at a loss to explain his "yeah". It just seems lame. What pops into my mind is the comment David makes to Maddie in the Dream Sequence when he says that these types of cases are the backbone of the investigation business. I don't get it. |
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Post by jpen on Mar 17, 2009 20:43:25 GMT -5
What was the worst car YOU ever owned? For the first question, I guess I'll have to reply "N/A" because I never really owned a crappy car. Of course, there was that Chevy Vega that my ex owned back in the day. Now that was one disasterous vehicle! [/quote] We had a Vega too, when I was growing up. I don't think I've ever heard my dad curse so much...or so colorfully! |
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Post by graycav56 on Mar 17, 2009 20:45:09 GMT -5
I too, owned a Vega. Buzzy fuel pump, electrical nightmare and bad synchronizers for second gear. It was a Cosworth though, and when it ran, it ran like a champ!
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Post by lin212 on Mar 17, 2009 20:47:11 GMT -5
Q10. And finally…THE KISS: significant or just a tease? Pretend you are the Head Writer in charge of Continuity (HA! HA!). How would YOU start the next episode? Well, the kiss would have been significant if it had been more than an isolated moment...otherwise, it just turned out to be a tease. It came from out of nowhere and went absolutely nowhere which was symptomatic of all the disjointed episodes of Season 5. There was no relationship development. It was more like 1 step forward, 2 steps back. How would I have started the next episode? Well, the 8:00 PG version might have David walking into Maddie's office the next morning with Maddie giving David that bright sparkly eyed "Good morning" that she gives him in "Flesh". The OTHER version would have them waking up - well, you know... |
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Post by jpen on Mar 17, 2009 20:47:24 GMT -5
Q10. And finally…THE KISS: significant or just a tease? Pretend you are the Head Writer in charge of Continuity (HA! HA!). How would YOU start the next episode?With jet fighters…or pirate ships…no, in the Roman Coliseum with lions and gladiators…wait, how about at a frat party! Oh my, Gray...would you puh-leeze write some fan fiction??? I am sitting here literally LOLing, just picturing David with a tie around his head and a huge red cup full of beer, while Maddie sports a big ol' lavalier with his letters on it... |
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Post by sinceifell4u on Mar 17, 2009 20:56:16 GMT -5
Thanks to those who provided questions...I love the personalization entailed in them!  Q6: As they watch Nathan and Jolene in the restaurant, Maddie and David dissect the other couple’s body language. How do you think their comments connect to the current state of their relationship? Their dissection seem to give a hint of pretension...although some truth was uncovered. Maddie and David pretend their lives have moved on but the conversations lead right back to their relationship. Q7: What do you think is the tone of David and Maddie’s conversation in the mall? Are we being led to believe that there’s a chance they’ll get back together? I can't say I was led to believe that  (though of course we all hoped) but I can see a foundation of openness that should have led to reconciliation. Q8: “Well, I would’ve given you one if you’d given me one.” ;D Discuss. Just the nature of Maddie and David, never wanting to do more than the other; never desiring to display more affection for fear of no reciprocity. Q9: How do you feel about David’s “experiment” with the female Wobblies? Do you think this is “very David,” or not? I loved it, a lot...man it was a treat to be Miss Lamont that day I'm sure, LOL! This is "very David"; his character is true here because he always wants to please Maddie or show he up and prove her wrong. Still, to care what someone thinks of you displays a tremendous love and respect for them. Q10. And finally…THE KISS: significant or just a tease? Pretend you are the Head Writer in charge of Continuity (HA! HA!). How would YOU start the next episode? The kiss, the pearls...oh my... sigh  . The fact that David still listens to Maddie; his inclination to please her and fulfill her desires is refreshing. Bruce does a great job at displaying David's affection toward Maddie under the layers of bitter dealings and confusion. As head writer, I would have started the next episode with David and Maddie thinking...then Maddie picking up the phone and hearing David's voice before she dialed his number. Maddie's telephone would never ring, their thoughts are in sync with each other; on each other. They'd dance around why they were calling one another; then I'd have Maddie yield before they hang up revealing "I just called to say...I Love You". David would say "Me too". That's my two bits folks...  |
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Post by sinceifell4u on Mar 17, 2009 21:02:57 GMT -5
Q2: One of the themes of this episode centers around gift giving. We see Nathan Craft going all out in purchasing gifts for his girlfriend. Did anyone ever purchase an expensive gift or gifts in an attempt to gain your favor? Did it work? Did YOU ever try it on someone else? How did THAT work out? What did you think of David's reaction to Maddie's gift?Guilty as charged. My first girlfriend, Andrea. Well anyway, she was MY girlfriend, but I wasn’t her boyfriend. Only child. Mom was an executive with Bell Telephone. Used to the finer things. I was the baby of a family of modest means. I went to the community pool, she went to Hawaii. I had a 10 year old Chevy, she had a brand new New Yorker. I scrimped and saved and purchased her a silver engraved bracelet. It didn’t work. It was never going to work. It was at that point I realized that money doesn’t buy you love. Although it CAN purchase one hell of a lot of like! Ahhh Gray...guys have to deal with that so much more than girls. It's these dam societal roles we're forced to stomach under this masochistic regime of duty and obligation...oh wait, wrong blog, sorry ;D And you're right about money sure buying a whole lotta like...I've had some folk invest in that, lol |
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Post by lin212 on Mar 17, 2009 21:02:58 GMT -5
What did you think of David's reaction to Maddie's gift? I think that David recognized that Maddie truly wanted to get him something special, so he didn't want to hurt her feelings. On the other hand, there was no way in hell that he was going to be seen in that car. He had to find a way to make it disappear. Also, the fact that David uses the money from the teenymobile to buy Maddie a set of pearls shows his appreciation of her intentions. Earlier in the episode, Maddie tells David that he never gave her anything either. The pearls settle that score. |
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Post by sinceifell4u on Mar 17, 2009 21:07:31 GMT -5
Q9: How do you feel about David’s “experiment” with the female Wobblies? Do you think this is “very David,” or not?I thought it was quite clever actually. It was completely platonic and done in a very scientific way. He was only attempting, I suppose, to determine his smooching ability, to determine if he was a “hard kisser” as determined by a disinterested third party. Or fourth. Or even fifth. Perhaps he wanted to “improve” his technique, which was a valid by product as evidenced by Maddie in the final scene. Interesting she would call HIM a hard kisser, especially after the way SHE inhaled him in Big Man on Mulberry Street among others. Talk about a Duo Directional Lipus Lockus! Yeah Gray, purely science, lol You said she "inhaled" him, LMAO, yes she did and no woman here today blames her, lol |
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Post by lin212 on Mar 17, 2009 21:09:22 GMT -5
Q8: “Well, I would’ve given you one if you’d given me one.” ;D Discuss. This is so typical of the D and M dynamic. Who is going to say "love" first? Does she love him more than he loves her - or vice versa? And on and on it goes. Great line. |
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Post by sinceifell4u on Mar 17, 2009 21:09:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the Avatar compliments folks! It was a quickie and I had some pixilation problems, but it gets the point across. Golly, if only I could get a REAL picture with Cyb, wouldn't THAT make a great avatar!
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Post by graycav56 on Mar 17, 2009 21:11:27 GMT -5
Did any of you folks happen to see this on its original run? They had a neat pre-titles sequence where D&M were discussing ways to get more viewers to turn in.
Maddie wanted socially revealing programming. Dave wanted nudity.
To settle the dispute, they contracted with the Viola Institute of Advanced Shenanigans that developed a reverse polarity machine that could rate viewers reactions to each proposal.
With Maddie's PBS type option, there was polite applause. To David's suggestion of hooters galore, well, the meter was pegged.
Maddie would not cooperate, however, and Dave had the wobblies come in and begin a strip tease when they faded to the titles sequence.
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(though of course we all hoped) but I can see a foundation of openness that should have led to reconciliation. 
. The fact that David still listens to Maddie; his inclination to please her and fulfill her desires is refreshing. Bruce does a great job at displaying David's affection toward Maddie under the layers of bitter dealings and confusion.
...and you of course, lol)