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Post by beesnbears on Jan 7, 2009 16:07:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure I qualify to comment, since I didn't technically get to rewatch the episode, but I did peruse some of your comments during the wee small hours. The "David love" is fun, and it is gratifying that we love him in good times and bad.....when he is being adorable and also when he is being a jerk..... I have to raise the accolades to the man behind the character.....especially in the 4th season. Bruce Willis had to carry a heavy load to keep the show going during that season, and I really believe he puts in some of his best acting performances of the series. "Father Knows Last" is the one that always jumps to mind, but when you get a chance, take a look at the many scenes in season 4 that really qualify David as a person just as confused as Maddie, and trying valiantly to keep himself going one day at a time. One of my favorites has to be the scene in Terri's apartment, when after a miserable and preoccupied dinner, he invites her to the wedding. (I'm paraphrasing, but I think I'm pretty close...) Terri: How do you feel? David: I'm great....I'm fine.....I'm tickled pink, and green and various other colors. Terri: Like black and blue? David: No way......she never laid a glove on me. How could your heart not bleed for the guy? (and isn't that a powerful piece of writing as well?) I think it is a good time to pause and remember that Bruce Willis's portrayal is the catalyst that makes us allies of David in his torment this season. Enjoy your day! diane Diane, I think it is safe for me to say that you are more than qualified around here to post anything that has to do with Moonlighting. You have fans that are "essed"!! I have said before how much I love Bruce Willis. He made me fall in love with David Addison 10 times over, but I really have so much respect for his work, past, present and future! I do think his work on ML is his some of his best. I can watch a TV show today and have never had an actress or actor make me feel the way Bruce did (does) on ML. To me, TV has not really ever been the same for me since the show was on in the 80's. If you guys haven't already be sure to go through his filmography. He has played so many different roles. He is not afraid to be a geek, an assassin, a super hero, a cop, a jerk husband, a dead psychologist, etc!!! My family makes fun of me sometimes because they will try to pick out a movie at home and over half of them are Bruce's stuff!! Oh well!
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Post by sinceifell4u on Jan 7, 2009 16:08:33 GMT -5
rose, you are so right when you say David and Bert are shocked to see Walter. I just love love love the part when David walks out of his office to meet Walter and then looks to his left -followed by Walter and Agnes looking over in the same direction. It cracks me up every time, as does Agnes' giggle when Walter assumes that Bert is David. I really truly laugh out loud every time I watch it. Your comment about Maddie not saying anything back to Walter when he tells her that David has sparkle. I think she even changes the subject and talks about the chair! Doesn't she say something like, "This is really nice" as she rocks to and fro? Lin212~Definitely a fun time at the first meeting, the "Play Misty for Me" reference and how Wally played right along, so apologetic, great stuff. My favorite reaction is from Richie as Dave points Wally out at the bachelor party, OMG, the laughter is riotous ;D...if Richie had of been within a few more feet of Wally, it would have been down right disrespectful
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Post by sinceifell4u on Jan 7, 2009 16:30:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure I qualify to comment, since I didn't technically get to rewatch the episode, but I did peruse some of your comments during the wee small hours. The "David love" is fun, and it is gratifying that we love him in good times and bad.....when he is being adorable and also when he is being a jerk..... I have to raise the accolades to the man behind the character.....especially in the 4th season. Bruce Willis had to carry a heavy load to keep the show going during that season, and I really believe he puts in some of his best acting performances of the series. "Father Knows Last" is the one that always jumps to mind, but when you get a chance, take a look at the many scenes in season 4 that really qualify David as a person just as confused as Maddie, and trying valiantly to keep himself going one day at a time. One of my favorites has to be the scene in Terri's apartment, when after a miserable and preoccupied dinner, he invites her to the wedding. (I'm paraphrasing, but I think I'm pretty close...) Terri: How do you feel? David: I'm great....I'm fine.....I'm tickled pink, and green and various other colors. Terri: Like black and blue? David: No way......she never laid a glove on me. How could your heart not bleed for the guy? (and isn't that a powerful piece of writing as well?) I think it is a good time to pause and remember that Bruce Willis's portrayal is the catalyst that makes us allies of David in his torment this season. Enjoy your day! diane Diane, you said it, Bruce the actor carried a lot to keep that show going and I love every minute of it. His tenacity made you keep watching, even if it was to see his character sweat in anticipation of his hearts' desire return. That "black and blue" comment, it seemed almost real the way he expressed the sentiment. Like Bruce the person and Dave the character are in denial, like none of this is hurting him, he's just walking the path laid with no affects to his personality. Yet, it greatly affected his personality and I can see the change in his character ... this is very true to life. No person can go through that amount of emotional turmoil unscathed, they would have to become numb just to cope. The numbness is really anger, that's why he can't hold his peace after the Terri's baby is born...the disgust on his face is so apparent. Yet and still he feel's her and can't resist reaching out to Maddie in this state. ML definitely made Bruce a better actor, more versatile, ultimately giving him the range that he has displayed over the last 20 years in his career. SinceIfell4U
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Post by marple on Jan 7, 2009 17:35:09 GMT -5
This is a really great stuff discussion. Thanks! Itfs too huge, for me to read all the posts by now. But Ifm intrigued in some great insights about David and Bruce. And Ifd like to share this in returncBruce explained about David Addison in Novemver of1988 on PLAYBOY. I found this on the web months agoc and am sure some of you have already read it, just in case for the new fans.
From "BRUNO'S WORLD" PLAYBOY MAGAZINE
PLAYBOY: Who is David Addison, and what parts of him are you?
BRUCE: At times, he can be the Peter Pan of the modern world. There is a party going on inside his head and behind his eyes all the time. And if you understand the party, you're accepted. If you don't understand, you're still accepted, but he's going to try to get you to come to his party. And if you do understand and still don't want to come, he's going to find a way to make you come. Or bring the party to you. He has a code that's sometimes mystical, sometimes very obvious. He hides behind his humor and uses it as a weapon and a shield. And ultimately, he never wants to grow up. David Addison is the kind of guy who wants to have babies so that he can sit around and play with all the toys again that he never threw away. The innate part of me that is him is that fun-loving, chance-taking, risk-taking guy, who, in the face of insurmountable odds or adversity, laughs and finds a way out of it. That's what I meant when I said that David Addison is beyond cool. He doesn't give a s**t whether people think he's cool or not. That lack of caring is the ultimate cool. Just be yourself.
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Post by lin212 on Jan 7, 2009 19:59:44 GMT -5
bees, I too went through Bruce's filmography. His body of work is amazing - something all ML lovers should see. And you are right, sinceifell4u, his 4 years on our beloved show laid the groundwork for the vast range of characters that he has portrayed so well over all these years. David Addison will always remain my favorite.
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Post by sinceifell4u on Jan 7, 2009 23:52:04 GMT -5
bees, I too went through Bruce's filmography. His body of work is amazing - something all ML lovers should see. And you are right, sinceifell4u, his 4 years on our beloved show laid the groundwork for the vast range of characters that he has portrayed so well over all these years. David Addison will always remain my favorite. ;DYes and Yes, even on the DVD set he thanks Cybill for becoming pregnant because it gave him the opportunity to do DIE HARD. I see that as his hard work paying off for his great commitment to the show; in spite of all, ML endured and keeps enduring. There are not many fans who hold a torch for characters as long as we have. These characters and their actors, to me, are sheer perfection! SinceIfell4U
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Post by Cindy on Jan 8, 2009 16:54:01 GMT -5
You guys really touched on so many of the important aspects of this episode. So I do not have much to add there. As for the confusion on whether Maddie knew for sure who the father of her baby was, I have always thought no....but also believe the writers never acted like they knew either. Biologically I have always thought it would not be possible for Maddie to know UNLESS she knew birth control precautions had been taken during the event. And then she told David she used BC in To Heiress Human....(which means she would have also been using it when she was with Sam). But we found out she clearly wasn't... then all bets are off. There would not be anyway to know just what happened exactly when since the Sam/David nights happened back to back. And then continue on with David for another 4-6 weeks. The odds always seemed greater to me that David was the daddy. But nothing is for sure. Then Glenn Caron showed back up with Womb with a View and made sure everyone knew who was the daddy. Glenn always knew I think. Too bad noone bothered to ask him before writing so many of the 4th season episodes!!
We have all read how irritated Cybill was with the writers marrying Maddie off to Walter...but she did try to make the best of it. She felt it was completely wrong for her character and told the press at the time. It caused more hard feelings between her and the powers to be on the show. Because of this, I think this why it is so hard to justify for Maddie. Walter, I understand for him. But it does seem very very out of character for Maddie.
My favorite part of this whole episode is the chaotic scene at the check-in desk at the hospital. That scene is hilarious! That nurse! Those screwball back and forth lines between Maddie and David and then Walter showing up! I laugh everytime I watch this episode.
Second fav scene is the whacky bachelor party. From the horse mating videos to the yellow napkinheads and Burt's strip tease. It is hilarious! Hard to decide if I feel worst for David in his agony over Maddie or Walter in having to endure that whole mess with a room full of strangers! It has to be the most awkward bachelor party ever. And then to have Burt pop out of the cake. Demented....but funny!
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Post by sinceifell4u on Jan 8, 2009 17:22:40 GMT -5
You guys really touched on so many of the important aspects of this episode. So I do not have much to add there. As for the confusion on whether Maddie knew for sure who the father of her baby was, I have always thought no....but also believe the writers never acted like they knew either. Biologically I have always thought it would not be possible for Maddie to know UNLESS she knew birth control precautions had been taken during the event. And then she told David she used BC in To Heiress Human....(which means she would have also been using it when she was with Sam). But we found out she clearly wasn't... then all bets are off. There would not be anyway to know just what happened exactly when since the Sam/David nights happened back to back. And then continue on with David for another 4-6 weeks. The odds always seemed greater to me that David was the daddy. But nothing is for sure. Then Glenn Caron showed back up with Womb with a View and made sure everyone knew who was the daddy. Glenn always knew I think. Too bad noone bothered to ask him before writing so many of the 4th season episodes!! We have all read how irritated Cybill was with the writers marrying Maddie off to Walter...but she did try to make the best of it. She felt it was completely wrong for her character and told the press at the time. It caused more hard feelings between her and the powers to be on the show. Because of this, I think this why it is so hard to justify for Maddie. Walter, I understand for him. But it does seem very very out of character for Maddie. My favorite part of this whole episode is the chaotic scene at the check-in desk at the hospital. That scene is hilarious! That nurse! Those screwball back and forth lines between Maddie and David and then Walter showing up! I laugh everytime I watch this episode. Second fav scene is the whacky bachelor party. From the horse mating videos to the yellow napkinheads and Burt's strip tease. It is hilarious! Hard to decide if I feel worst for David in his agony over Maddie or Walter in having to endure that whole mess with a room full of strangers! It has to be the most awkward bachelor party ever. And then to have Burt pop out of the cake. Demented....but funny! Hi Cindy...I have so many favs in this one but I just crack up at Richie's reaction to Walter, OMG, I laugh like it was the first time I've seen it! ;D I feel you on Maddie's uncertainty of the "Little Dividend"s daddy, yet I totally knew she had not taken the proper bc precautions...this she knew when she "assured" David that precautions had been taken in THH....hence my signature. I just love the lies they tell, so evident that she is not absolutely sure, her voice wavers and her eyes shift . Adding a motioning of the head to put that stamp of proof that she was sincere...although I question how sincere she really is...funny. SinceIfell4U
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 8, 2009 17:40:27 GMT -5
Gang, With all this discussion of spontaneity, I thought it appropriate to temporarily change my avatar. Hmm, what if I were on that train instead of Walter Bishop.....the mind reels.
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Post by italianbluemooner on Jan 8, 2009 17:46:43 GMT -5
Gang, With all this discussion of spontaneity, I thought it appropriate to temporarily change my avatar. Hmm, what if I were on that train instead of Walter Bishop.....the mind reels. graycav, my man! Your brand new avatar is adorable! I LOVE IT!!! P.S. hmm, the two of us must have some sort of telepathic connection...I've just changed mine, too!
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Post by rose35 on Jan 8, 2009 17:47:46 GMT -5
OMG I near fell out of my chair when i saw your avatar! So funny and so AWESOME man! You Rock my friend! LOL Gang, With all this discussion of spontaneity, I thought it appropriate to temporarily change my avatar. Hmm, what if I were on that train instead of Walter Bishop.....the mind reels.
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Post by beesnbears on Jan 8, 2009 17:58:32 GMT -5
Great googly moogly graycav.....how did you that? You sure look better than Wally!! LOL!! Something tells me there is a story behind the picture.....enquiring minds wanna know!!
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 8, 2009 18:10:56 GMT -5
Ahh Bees, then I'd be giving up my secret...which is just a crude photoshop job. That actually IS me on the right on April 1st 1989.
See, I DID promise to shave the 'stache!
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Post by italianbluemooner on Jan 8, 2009 18:32:58 GMT -5
Ahh Bees, then I'd be giving up my secret...which is just a crude photoshop job. That actually IS me on the right on April 1st 1989. See, I DID promise to shave the 'stache! Great job, graycav!! Would you mind if I asked you a question, dear? Is it possible to make .gif files with Photoshop, too?
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 8, 2009 18:53:49 GMT -5
Oh, I think you can save the files to whatever format you'd like, depending on the version you have. Heck, even Paint allows you to save in various formats.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I used the term Photoshop as a generic term (like Q-Tip and Vaseline).
All I did was do some quickie cutting and pasting using Paint. Took about 3 minutes.
There are people at work who are Photoshop experts who can do WONDERS....I don't have the talent.
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