3. I really like the scene between Maddie and Bert. What do you think she was going to say to him, there at the end?
Honestly, I feel like Maddie is going to tell Bert to face his feelings or at least consider them. Maddie pulls back because she knows she has not heeded that herself and also knows it is more easily said than done.
I agree Since. This is another of those seminal moments where I think Maddie "gets it" with regards to her and David's relationship, and files it for future reference.
2. Do you think Maddie "does" a better David, or vice versa?
I remember this scene vividly from its first run and thought it was GREAT! I think they both did wonderful, but of course my nod goes to Maddie's impression, if for no other reason than her sitting on the edge of the desk. Hubba hubba!!
4. Do you think that, in this episode, we're already being invited to compare Bert & Agnes with David & Maddie?
Oh yeah, at least that is what I always thought. Here we had D&M repressing the most molten attraction mankind has ever known and on the other hand B&A (well, at least A) giving into her base instincts at the drop of a stack of computer printouts!
So we had Maddie and Agnes acting as complete opposites, but I felt a similarity between David and Bert....neither one of them could comprehend what was going on in the noggins of the ladies they were enamored with.
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3. Maddie and Bert have a conversaton in her office about Agnes and her lack of inhibitions. Bert tells her that if he quits running away that Agnes will catch him. Considering Maddie's response: "And then what will happen?", how does this reflect David and Maddie's relationship at this point?
Great great question, bees! Maybe Maddie is asking herself that question too...or we're meant to ask it of her. What will happen if she gives into her growing feelings for David (say, for example, she writes him an anonymous letter )?
I liked the last scene where they DID write those letters. Maddie's seemed like she was willing to role play a bit, go out of character a tad, while Dave, in my opinion, was willing to perhaps open up his feelings for her. Ah well.
Yes great avatar Gray! You always know what to put and say on them! Sorry i missed the fun, have been birthday party shopping alot LOL my sons party is tomorrow! Plus my sis is moving out today and we have realtors coming through our house. Hope to have more time soon for these chats!
After watching this episode I came away with an extreme empathy for Mr. Macy.
I don't know why, but man did I feel for that guy. Poor dude is a deaf mute, obviously not living the high life, alone and without much to go on.
Here is his one chance at happiness, even if it was not really going to go anywhere. And it gets shot down.
I suppose I shouldn't have this guilt trip. Macy apparently was going whacko, which is why ol Mrs. Woodley wanted to end it in the first place.....or WAS he? Was it Macy writing the off the wall stuff or was it the Mister? I may have to watch again....
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Gray, I had the same question. Upon rewatching, I remembered that at some point Mr. Woodley turned the letter writing over to Mr. Macy. But how did Macy find out about the 6 month cruise, to be able to tell Gail she shouldn't/couldn't go? Anyway, the sympathy for Mr. Macy is what led Maddie to think it was a good idea for he and Gail to continue writing, despite his threats.
"Lady gets in trouble, it's nice to know she has somebody to call"
1. Besides breaking office decorum, how do you think Maddie feels about an uninhibited Ms. DiPesto?
Maddie is shocked because Agnes is not just her employee; she has a motherly instinct toward her. So learning that Agnes attacked Herbert--and not the other way around--is like having her daughter reveal that she's lost her virginity. Agnes is not as innocent as Maddie thought. Perhaps Maddie wishes she could be less controlled, less inhibited.
1. Maddie laments in the car, "What's happened to all the rules? Where's the romance?" a)What exactly do you think she's yearning for in this scene? b)What is it about the Woodley/Macy case that subsequently turns Maddie into David (ba-bing!), believing that this letter-writing scheme is "wonderfully romantic"?
a) I think that Maddie is yearning for some solidarity, some "we're on the same page" reassurance from David, that there's even the slightest bit of common ground between them on the subject of romance. Maddie also yearns for a simpler time, when the "rules" of romance were more clear. At which point David reminds her that it's the '80s, and those rules no longer apply.
b)Maddie has an antiquated notion of romance, and letter-writing fits into that. Forget the fact that Mr. Macy has threatened Mr. and Mrs. Woodley in his letters. What happened to the rules regarding protecting your clients' interests and safety, Ms. Hayes (incidentally, Cybill revealed in her book that she had a big problem with this aspect of the episode. When she shared her concerns with Glenn, apparently he brushed her off, reminding her that she was merely an actor)?
2. Do you think Maddie "does" a better David, or vice versa? (Hey--I didn't put in the pun, folks--it's in the script!)
The only time I like Maddie "doing" David is in "Atlas Belched": "Cuz I see what you don't, cuz I see what you can't..." So, suffice it to say, in this episode I prefer David doing Maddie: "Believe me, Maddie Hayes, I didn't just pluck this idea out of the air willy nilly..." (something to that effect). David's impersonation is more natural. Plus, his reaction to the role switching is hilarious.