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Post by lin212 on Mar 2, 2010 20:52:01 GMT -5
Where were you on March 3, 1985? Not only physically but what was going on in your life?
In March 1985, I was living in Lanham, Maryland. My youngest child was 8 months old and I was working for Prince George's County.
What was your reaction to the pilot......and did you ever imagine that you would still be talking about this show 25 years later?
I know I watched the series, but I do not have a clear recollection of my reaction at the time. I certainly know, however, that I NEVER thought that I would be talking about, analyzing, dissecting, or "essing" about this show 25 years later with a most amazing group of people who have become friends. Long live Moonlighting!
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Post by lin212 on Mar 2, 2010 20:56:02 GMT -5
Let's Party like its 1985! LOL Ok here's my ticket question: What is your fave scene of the whole Pilot episode? HMMMMM Will we all pick the same one or different scenes? The dance in the bar - hands down!
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Post by lin212 on Mar 2, 2010 20:57:29 GMT -5
Hey, where is everybody? It's almost 9:00!
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Post by diane on Mar 2, 2010 20:57:57 GMT -5
Where were you on March 3, 1985? Not only physically but what was going on in your life?
What was your reaction to the pilot......and did you ever imagine that you would still be talking about this show 25 years later?
I'll tackle the easy one first. I was an HR manager for John Wanamaker, agewise smack dab in the middle of the ages David and Maddie were supposed to be. I was in the middle of a very heavy flirtation (which became a short relationship) with a coworker 5 years my junior, who had difficulty taking anything seriously. Can you imagine why I would have any interest in this show? The promos for the pilot had sparked my interest, so I was carefully seated in front of the old 19 inch Zenith. I was enjoying the show -- Cybill was great and fabulously beautiful, but I knew I was in love...with both the guy and the show....when David played Blue Moon on the harmonica. I remember sitting up and saying....."Wow, who IS this guy?" I said to someone the other day.......I couldn't possibly have imagined what this show would do for my life -- the wonderful friends I would meet, the fantastic experiences it would bring to me. I am truly thankful that the ML pilot, and all that followed came into my life 25 years ago. In 6 minutes, I will be lifting my very dirty Grey Goose martini -- because the first one I ever had was ordered for me by Bruce. Bless Moonlighting.....and you, all my friends. Love, diane
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Post by diane on Mar 2, 2010 21:02:17 GMT -5
Here is my ticket: Maddie marches into City of Angels Investigations and she tells David he is fired. The madness of Moonlighting ensues thereafter, but just what is it exactly does David fight so hard to prove? I think at first, David is just a guy fighting for a job......a fairly cushy "no work and pay" job. he is so much in love with his life, I think he finds it difficult to believe that Maddie is not jumping at the opportunity to join him in business. When she disparages him, I think he then is challenged, and needs to prove himself to her. And I also think, he sees something in Maddie that makes him want to work to have her stick around.
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Post by beesnbears on Mar 2, 2010 21:07:21 GMT -5
Let's Party like its 1985! LOL Ok here's my ticket question: What is your fave scene of the whole Pilot episode? HMMMMM Will we all pick the same one or different scenes? I'm a pig. It's the ladder scene. Home of THE best line in television history. ;D Agree, but that one is second for me....the bar scene is it for me. Glenn Caron was a genius to use "Since I Fell" for the music in that scene and then use it again at such a pivotal time later in "Blonde on Blonde". I believe David is smitten right there. He just doesn't know how bad yet! Coming in a close third is the office scene where Maddie has the plaid blanket wrapped around her shoulders. She is intrigued with David just like every other red-blooded female that night!!
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Post by graycav56 on Mar 2, 2010 21:07:30 GMT -5
Bless Moonlighting.....and you, all my friends. Love, diane Same to you dollface!
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Post by lin212 on Mar 2, 2010 21:09:39 GMT -5
Point out one of the things that is (that are??) DIFFERENT between the pilot and the series.
Well, Maddie's house and the office are different because Glenn used actual locations for the Pilot, not the stage sets we see in the series.
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Post by diane on Mar 2, 2010 21:09:45 GMT -5
MY ticket: Point out one of the things that is (that are??) DIFFERENT between the pilot and the series.
I think they got rid of the underwear jokes after the pilot, didn't they? Hahaha!!
Well, let's see, Maddie's house changed when they started using a soundstage instead of a real house. They built the staircase, but the front drive was different, as well as the front doors.
Not to be critical, but the acting got much better. I think Cyb had Maddie on point from the very beginning, but Bruce needed some time to grow into David. You can almost see when it clicks.
They started wearing seatbelts in the car because they were deluged by complaints.
They spent more time on lighting in the future episodes, and really made some amazing things happen for a TV show.
They became "partners......real partners."
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Post by graycav56 on Mar 2, 2010 21:09:59 GMT -5
I'm a pig. It's the ladder scene. Home of THE best line in television history. ;D Agree, but that one is second for me....the bar scene is it for me. Glenn Caron was a genius to use "Since I Fell" for the music in that scene and then use it again at such a pivotal time later in "Blonde on Blonde". I believe David is smitten right there. He just doesn't know how bad yet! Coming in a close third is the office scene where Maddie has the plaid blanket wrapped around her shoulders. She is intrigued with David just like every other red-blooded female that night!! Ahhh OK. If you gals are talking "mush" then I have to agree that the slow dance in the bar takes the cake with the office blanket right up there as well. Golly there are so many classic scenes in the pilot.
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Post by beesnbears on Mar 2, 2010 21:10:19 GMT -5
CHEERS!! Here here....there there....and long live Moonlighting!
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Post by jpen on Mar 2, 2010 21:18:59 GMT -5
Salut, my friends!! ;D
Let's start with the icebreaker:
In March 1985, I was (gulp) a sophomore in high school in Westlake Village, CA. I was a hopeless romantic, and the whole "fire and ice" chemistry thing was terrifically intriguing to me--I dreamed of finding the Rhett to my Scarlett, the Darcy to my Elizabeth, the Remington to my Laura (oh, yeah, I loved that show, too). I don't remember watching the Pilot in its initial showing, but I'm fairly sure I can recall (amidst the haze of my momnesia) watching "Next Murder"; I know that by the second season, "Moonlighting" was appointment TV for me.
And, in spite of the fact that I dissected every episode with my friends, I couldn't have imagined being even more 'essed 25 years later! I'm very grateful to have re-discovered the show via DVD, which inspired me to try my hand at (fan)fiction, and in turn led me to a great great group of people.
Bless you all, bless Cybill, Bruce, and Glenn, and long live Moonlighting!! ;D
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Post by lin212 on Mar 2, 2010 21:21:51 GMT -5
Do you think we're supposed to identify/root for one more than the other here?
I don't think so. What we see here is similar to many of the future episodes - both David and Maddie are "right". Maddie is right to be skeptical and wary of David. She has just lost her fortune and she is trying to take control of her life. On the other hand, David is just trying to survive and is resourceful in his methods. Both are sympathetic and endearing characters.
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Post by diane on Mar 2, 2010 21:22:46 GMT -5
1. How do you think David and Maddie are characterized in this episode?[/quote][/b]
Maddie is someone truly out of touch with the real world...while watching, I wrote down beautiful and blissfully unaware. She thinks all the troubles of the world can be fixed by making a phone call or writing a check. She thinks she is being businesslike, but she comes across as a "bitch". But she is truly a person with a heart of gold, and she softens towards David...all the while knowing he is charming her, but she seems unable to resist it.
David is down and dirty, fighting for what he wants, and eager to show off what he thinks are his skills and talents. I believe he starts off thinking he is going to snow Maddie, but finds that she has more depth and sincerity than he expected.
2. Do you think we're supposed to identify/root for one more than the other here?
Oh yeah...this is a David's showcase....right now GGC and company are still identifying with David and worshipping Maddie.
3. In what ways is Moonlighting blazing, right out of the gate, with this episode? In what ways does it have room to improve?[/quote][/b]
The chemistry between Bruce and Cybill sizzles from the first moment they are on screen together. I think that buys the show some time to polish the acting and the writing (although the writing is very good, it gets better), and allow them to grow into their characters.
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Post by jpen on Mar 2, 2010 21:25:40 GMT -5
When she disparages him, I think he then is challenged, and needs to prove himself to her. And I also think, he sees something in Maddie that makes him want to work to have her stick around. Totally agree, diane. Maddie challenges him more than anyone has (or will)--just look at his face when she calls him a "sissyfighter" (classic!!). She throws the gauntlet down again and again, and David just keeps on pickin' it up. And David spends the rest of the series trying to prove himself to her--professionally and personally. I think you can trace the roots of "Father Knows Last" and even some of the 5th season shows in his reactions to her here.
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