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Post by sandra on Nov 3, 2020 3:06:24 GMT -5
I hadn't seen a ramblings/chit chat section on here yet, so here we go. My ramblings today are simple; where is everybody? Hahaha! I know it already was a bit slow to begin with when I signed up here, but these last few weeks are sooo quiet. I guess I'm just looking for a bit of a distraction, since all of Europe is headed back into lockdown. You notice that people in the streets are getting increasingly cranky about it and the atmosphere is just tense. I know these measures are necessary, because I've seen the damage this virus can do first hand due to my work at the hospital. However, the world is just completely nuts these days. Can we go back in time or flash forward to a place where this virus is contained? Anyway, who wants to chit chat? It can be about anything
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Post by Marlena on Nov 9, 2020 19:02:30 GMT -5
Hi Sandra, my rambling for today is about Bruce and Cybill's chemistry, or lack thereof, in season 5. I mean, it seems that everybody blames the writers, but sometimes I wonder if Bruce and Cybill just didn't want to have to "act out" being in love with each other anymore. Like, what if they requested that they didn't have to be intimate very often. In Womb With A View, I love the scene at the baby shower where they are dancing together, but I also think that is the last time we saw their chemistry. I do not like the way David comforts Maddie in the hospital. He's holding her hand, but he seems distant to me. And in Between a Yuk and a Hard Place, I like the elevator scene, but they could've done so much more with that scene. I've been reading the episodes in Virtual Moonlighting and I can visual them in my head. It just makes me so sad that we didn't get to see Maddie and David like that. So, so sad.
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Post by sandra on Nov 10, 2020 3:44:50 GMT -5
I see your point, Marlena. Cybill and Bruce's chemistry sometimes felt a bit forced in season 5. I've always found it very odd that they could go from being; "We get along great!" and "We're attracted to each other!" to what they were at the end of the show. I'm not going to speculate about what happened there, they're entitled to their private lives, but you could definitely see a difference in their chemistry when you look at earlier episodes and compare it to later on. Now, I did change my profile picture to one of the promotional pictures they did for season 5 and I just absolutely love this one, because I can still feel their chemistry a tiny bit in it. But yeah, I agree that after Womb With A View, it was all over. It's an interesting point of view that they might have requested to lower their number of intimate scenes considerably. When I think about the show's demise, it wasn't just Glenn Caron or the writers from season 5. It was all of the above, not to mention the writer's strike that they faced. Moonlighting just didn't stand a chance anymore.
I was pleasantly surprised when Cybill was a part of the roasters for Bruce on Comedy Central's 'The Roast of Bruce Willis,' two years ago. Their friendliness towards each other did seem genuine and I'm glad they appear to have buried whatever hatchet they had.
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Post by notjuanjones on Nov 25, 2020 0:05:15 GMT -5
There were a couple of good episodes in S5, but those moments of true chemistry between our two protagonists were so few and far between. People grow apart-in families, in relationships, in TV show casts. It’s really surprising when you go back and look how short the runs were on big hit shows.
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Post by sandra on Dec 10, 2020 14:12:53 GMT -5
You're right about that, notjuanjones.
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Post by sandra on Dec 14, 2020 8:14:20 GMT -5
Just a quick question; how is everyone going to celebrate Christmas with the pandemic? What are the rules in your country? Here in Holland, we're being told by the government tonight about what extra measures are going to be taken. It's definitely not going well here and covid contaminations are going through the roof again. Hospitals are full and regular care is being held off for now. It looks like stores will be closed again, as well as schools. The only thing that will be open are the grocery stores. This will probably be the case until January 19th (we will learn about this tonight). There are rumors about a curfew being set for everyone. It also appears that we can't have guests over, meaning that Christmas will be celebrated with the ones who actually live in our houses. For me, that will be my husband and our three-year-old daughter. I'm not complaining, don't get me wrong. I'm thankful that I CAN celebrate Christmas with my husband and child. These are just sad times we're living in.
You can bet I'm going to re-run the heck out of Moonlighting's Christmas episodes and write a whole lot of fanfiction! Anyway, I'm curious about where everyone else stands in all of this. Let me know.
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Post by luzdeluna on Dec 14, 2020 9:15:51 GMT -5
Just a quick question; how is everyone going to celebrate Christmas with the pandemic? What are the rules in your country? Here in Holland, we're being told by the government tonight about what extra measures are going to be taken. It's definitely not going well here and covid contaminations are going through the roof again. Hospitals are full and regular care is being held off for now. It looks like stores will be closed again, as well as schools. The only thing that will be open are the grocery stores. This will probably be the case until January 19th (we will learn about this tonight). There are rumors about a curfew being set for everyone. It also appears that we can't have guests over, meaning that Christmas will be celebrated with the ones who actually live in our houses. For me, that will be my husband and our three-year-old daughter. I'm not complaining, don't get me wrong. I'm thankful that I CAN celebrate Christmas with my husband and child. These are just sad times we're living in. You can bet I'm going to re-run the heck out of Moonlighting's Christmas episodes and write a whole lot of fanfiction! Anyway, I'm curious about where everyone else stands in all of this. Let me know. Hello Sandra, The situation here in Spain is quite similar. We have curfew and many closed business and only open-air restaurants at 50% capacity and 2m distance between tables (luckily we don't usually go below 10 degrees Celsius) but hospitals are quite full, specially intensive care sections. The situation has improved a bit the last 2 weeks so it seems that we will be able to celebrate with the close family but six people maximum. But everybody fears that if the measures are relaxed now, we will be again in a very bad situation after the holidays. In my case I will also only celebrate with my husband and 9-year old kid. My parents passed away a few years ago and if I join my brother's family we go beyond the 6 people limit... I'm also planning to rewatch the Moonlighting's Christmas episodes. Would it be possible to do some kind of on-line rewatch with the people of the forum? I don't know if you have done something like this before, as I joined the forum a few months ago...
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Post by sandra on Dec 16, 2020 9:31:11 GMT -5
I'm also planning to rewatch the Moonlighting's Christmas episodes. Would it be possible to do some kind of on-line rewatch with the people of the forum? I don't know if you have done something like this before, as I joined the forum a few months ago... This is a nice idea! All though, there aren't a whole lot of members active right now, so I'm afraid it wouldn't be a large gathering. Hahaha! I haven't done something like that before either, so I wouldn't know where to start. But I'm all ears about ideas for this!
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Post by satirise on Dec 23, 2020 14:11:03 GMT -5
Hot takes which I don't know where else to put and will perhaps deserve its own thread if I can put it more eloquently: S4 and S5 aren't bad if you're not a TV viewer in the 80s and can skip episodes or fast-forward through some bits (it's probably possible to recut S4-5 into something quite smooth if much shorter). The writing of the Walter Bishop storyline did much of the heavy lifting and a few more scenes going into Maddie's state of mind on the train would have made it compelling. The ending of Lunar Eclipse is a brilliant study in postmodernism and it's not difficult to believe a traditional happy ending is its off-screen extension.
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Post by essed on Dec 25, 2020 18:13:43 GMT -5
Just watched, too! I’m not a cryer but the cast and crew singing Noel gets me every time. Also, this was the first time I actually heard David’s dirty line when he comes out of the chimney! That’s what I love about rewatching. There are so many jokes that I didn’t catch or understand during the first or tenth viewing.
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Post by sandra on Dec 28, 2020 3:41:09 GMT -5
Ah yes, David's dirty line! This show tends to be so fast dialogue wise, that you sometimes miss a thing or two. That dirty line managed to escape my attention as well. When I finally did hear it, I laughed so hard!
Now, Anna, speaking of husbands rolling their eyes at you; right before Christmas, our television network announced that they were going to air all Die Hard movies (the first one on Christmas Day, the second one on Boxing Day and so on). I cheered and my husband just gave me this look and shook his head. I simply said: "Oh shush! You react the exact same way when Charlize Theron comes on!" Hahaha!
Anyway, I hope everyone had a good Christmas, in spite of the pandemic.
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Post by satirise on Jan 3, 2021 18:42:15 GMT -5
Did Caron know it would be his last episode when writing "A womb with a view"? I'm headed for the moment when I can no longer put off watching it, and the answer will probably colour my perception.
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Post by sandra on Jan 5, 2021 6:02:21 GMT -5
I think he might have known, but I'm not sure if he let that affect his writing for this episode. I mean, the feel of AWWAV was similar to the last few episodes of season 4 (save for the ending of ATFWMW), so maybe he was already on that track.
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Post by satirise on Jan 7, 2021 7:56:47 GMT -5
I think writing Maddie out of the show was on the cards for a while.
I really wonder what the rest of S4 would have been like had the writers' strike not happened. Even at the show's rate, it would have meant two or three more episodes, enough for a whole arc, really.
And by the way, I'm sure it's been discussed over and over before, but I just realised how few of S5 scripts were credited to people who'd worked (or at least been credited) on previous seasons. I know writing credits don't mean nearly as much as they seem to, still, I feel it's an excuse for S5's bad aspects I can stick to.
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Post by sandra on Jan 8, 2021 7:50:50 GMT -5
I've also heard those rumors about writing Maddie out of the show, as early as halfway through season 3. I mean, seriously? Did they really think that the show could survive such a move? I mean, I love David Addison, don't get me wrong, but David without Maddie is like Christmas without a tree to me. The show needed for her to steer him into the right direction and for him to get her to break free from her own shackles every once and a while. It would have been so bad.
As for the credits, I've noticed as well how every single one of those season 5 writers were unfamiliar to the show and the fans. You might be right that it serves as an excuse.
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