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Post by satirise on Jan 8, 2021 9:04:34 GMT -5
Diane left Cheers in 1987, and the show kept going. Obviously, that show's cast was much bigger, but it's possible Caron's team felt (over)confident enough to try and pull it off, a grand change of direction. They were breaking new ground all over the place, why not there? In 2021, I don't think I could watch a Maddie-less ML, but a 1988 viewer might have been won over by a reliably weekly serving. It's not like the nearly Maddie-less episodes of S4 lacked ambition.
By the way, after Caron left, who was actually in charge of the show?
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Post by marta on Jan 8, 2021 9:34:16 GMT -5
It is fascinating to explore possible impacts of production challenges and pressure from fans on the content of the show. I enjoyed your (all three of you satirise, notjuanjones and sandra) discussion under IAWJ immensely, but IMHO it is impossible to avoid bias. I felt that my knowledge of the troubles the production faced (very limited knowledge at that) spoiled my enjoyment of the show, at least at first. It is impossible not to know about the problems now, however, because the show was too popular for that. But I try. I force myself to watch episodes with a specific attitude – all is as it was intended to be and turned out very well. If something still does not agree with me on a subsequent viewing I try to find the reason for it in my own taste rather than a shortcoming of the show. You may think that such suspension of critical thinking is just too much (and it is for the dream sequence in ISEISFISMN…) but I have a deep respect for the brilliance of the show! And find more proof of that with each viewing. An example of bias is to me the supposed lack of chemistry between the leads and other shortcomings of the later seasons. My take on it is very different. I think ML subverts not only the detective show genre it does the same with the romantic comedy genre. In season 5, the leads are growing apart and it is very well acted. We want them to be together so badly that we do not see and hear what is really happening between them and has been, really, since the beginning of the show. There will not be a happy ending. Knowing that there was some friction between the actors pushes us even further into a specific interpretation of their scenes, which in turn prevents us from understanding the true story of fictional characters. There was never meant to be a happy ending. This is what the show is about on the dramatic level. Now, I am glad you do not know where I live...
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Post by sandra on Jan 8, 2021 10:48:12 GMT -5
Dang, Marta! Indeed, you are lucky that I can't come over there and find you. Hahaha! Just kidding. First of all; welcome to this board!
Now, I'm not your typical 'Happy Ending' kind of gal. To have a tv or movie character die or moving away or whatever sometimes does wonders for my soul. Yep, I can be dark and twisty like that. I love a good dramatical cry. Haha! However, with Maddie and David, I somehow desperately want(ed) that happy ending. The idea of them never getting together again and what would become of them if so (imagine David still living his lifestyle because women hurt him too much and Maddie never willing to commit or let someone in) just flat out breaks my heart. It's too depressing to me. Why? Because we never even really got to see them together in the first place. In season 4, they talk about an entire month of exploring the possibility of the two of them together, and we never saw any of it. I guess that's where my frustration over this show comes from. Maybe I would have been more willing to let go if we would have seen them try a little harder and failing. I don't know.
You're right about the bias, though. It's a very interesting take on season 5, to say that the chemistry fading away was intentional and well acted. I never really thought of it that way, because of my knowledge of the troubles backstage. So thank you for that insight.
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Post by satirise on Jan 8, 2021 15:09:01 GMT -5
Hello, Marta! Great point about bias. When I first heard about ML (from Kim Jong-il on 30 Rock), I looked it up on Wikipedia, and for several years all I knew about the show was that its quality collapsed when they got together. When I was watching it at long last, my pace slowed down to a crawl before Blonde on Blonde because I dreaded what was coming. Not to mention how much of the viewing experience was somewhat spoiled by knowing of several plot points in advance.
And an even greater point about their chemistry in S5, really outside the box. It will remind me to watch out for wishful thinking when watching. Come to think of it, it's played such a gigantic role in the way people have been interpreting the show. We need more of your takes, ML needs a wave of revisionism.
And Sandra, I'm with you, the show excels in getting you to be invested in a way that's rarely been replicated. Now that you've got me thinking about post-Maddie-and-David Maddie and David, my mind keeps drifting to the look on his face when he was talking to Richie in IAWJ. Knock someone down enough times and they'll stop getting up. But then again, it could be received wisdom that it has to be the two of them getting and staying together. Why them in particular? The world is full of damaged people, any two of them can fall into codepen... Fall in love, I mean. Then rinse and repeat.
David's actually had serious relationships before, Maddie hasn't. Between those outcomes you envision, I wonder if it's possible to decide which is sadder. I suppose it's symmetrical?
PS. A stray thought: Maddie is criticised for marrying Walter, but isn't it like 48 hours between her getting a message from Sam in BoB and his proposing to her, and then her almost saying yes and asserting she loves him as much as she does David?
I've really taken to the general idea of this thread, haven't I?
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Post by sandra on Jan 8, 2021 16:25:43 GMT -5
And Sandra, I'm with you, the show excels in getting you to be invested in a way that's rarely been replicated. Now that you've got me thinking about post-Maddie-and-David Maddie and David, my mind keeps drifting to the look on his face when he was talking to Richie in IAWJ. Knock someone down enough times and they'll stop getting up. But then again, it could be received wisdom that it has to be the two of them getting and staying together. Why them in particular? The world is full of damaged people, any two of them can fall into codepen... Fall in love, I mean. Then rinse and repeat. David's actually had serious relationships before, Maddie hasn't. Between those outcomes you envision, I wonder if it's possible to decide which is sadder. I suppose it's symmetrical? Oh, I'm getting quite invested in this discussion I once saw this video on YouTube about David post-Maddie and that one just broke my heart. This is what I envision when I see David in a world where he doesn't end up with Maddie. Here's the link, you should check it out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihrz3iPxbbYAs for which outcome is sadder; Maddie's or David's? I guess in my mind it's a tie. The YouTube video represents my thoughts on David's world post-Maddie, so that one is pretty obvious. With Maddie, it just saddens me that she'll always be afraid to let someone get too close. Therefore, she will never really know love and what it can be like. She'll always be lonely and alone that way. Not to mention the fact that she has reigned herself in so hard to achieve total contral; she's forever trapped by her own fearful mind. Now, why can't I let them be happy with someone else in my mind? Why do I specifically want them together? She's the yin to his yang; they balance each other out so beautifully that I simply can't picture them having that with anyone else. That's all the explanation I can give. P.S. Your point about the viewers finding Maddie a bit strange with her rushed marriage to Walter, but not balking at the idea of Sam proposing to her after only 48 hours is really good!
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Post by marta on Jan 8, 2021 16:33:08 GMT -5
Oh the joy of finding you people! Stand back now - I shall be posting furiously. I must or I shall burst.
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Post by marta on Jan 10, 2021 5:33:19 GMT -5
Thank you for the warm welcome to the board, guys.
I have been thinking about the reasons for my absorption in the show for some time now. I actually could not sleep and my head was filled with ML during the day. This is not age appropriate in my case and does not match the life experience. So what is going on??!!
I must admit I mostly watch episodes from the second half. This is how twisted I am! But I started watching ML for the second time in my life only at the end of October 2020. So it is entirely possible that my subconscious is trying to replace thoughts about huge problems (you can guess what I am talking about...) with thoughts about something problematic but imagined and nevertheless very engaging. So this is one reason.
There are other reasons and they would hold in the other times in my life, I think. Here they are (in the ascending order of importance):
4. The show is a mixture of comedy and tragedy. Comedy weakens our defences against tragic bits. We simply do not expect things to be THAT sad when they were just cracking a joke a few minutes earlier. Even when it happens for the hundredth time.
3. A TV show has time to develop characters and make us care about them. EDIT! I forgot to make it a separate point: 3.1 single camera look, shot like a movie, not like tv. Makes it more real.
2. The characters are packaged appropriately. David A is very hot but he is not sexy in a tabloid way (thinking about hot dudes calendar here) or particularly conventionally handsome (thinking about Clint E here). We must see David A moving, taking and smiling (especially smiling) or brooding (my goodness!) to appreciate fully how hot he is (photos often do not give him justice). Consequently he comes across as accessible and relatable and therefore real. But he is hot, so we care more. 'You are hard not to like' Sam says.
1. Excellent acting. See above. And all this sustained in 66 episodes over 5 years. I rest my case.
You will note, no doubt, that I did not mention Maddie in the same way. Her case is a bit different IMHO but this is a separate subject. The first sentences after numbers 1 and 2 above will still be valid for her. You were mostly pining for David and his happiness, I thought, so I developed this angle.
Thanks for the link to the Utube clip, Sandra. I will not watch it again.
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Post by marta on Jan 10, 2021 13:24:32 GMT -5
But wait! There is more!
I probably should take off my previous post. I seriously confused two issues.
The 1-4 points are about why we may be so invested in the romance story. I think I have got this under control, though. I am invested in the show mostly because of the comedy and cultural references. Make my head spin.
Let’s just take CHD P1-2 from the despised season 4 and look at (again) goings on in the Men Correctional Facility at Haematoma (Haematoma!) Nevada.
Let’s look at: the way they send up every cliché of a prison drama, the familiar tone of the voice over, the way that voice pronounces LA, the 1500 years to be served, the chain gang prowess in singin’ and dancin’, David’s love story measured by the depth of the ditch, the ‘this is not a knife, that's a knife’ scene. How about the ‘disoriented’ Philly Boy being released from solitary confinement after 14 days asking how long he was there and the guard answering in tv time: a couple of hours.
I am not even going into Sexual Healing number (what’s that on your face?) and panicked scramblings in the executive offices. A clairvoyant seeing bars! Makes me weep. Firstly, from happiness that I am privileged to enjoy such delights and secondly that this is season 4 and, apparently, it is all no good because they already had sex. The Moonlighting curse indeed.
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Post by sandra on Jan 10, 2021 14:52:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the link to the Utube clip, Sandra. I will not watch it again. Hahaha! It's rather depressing, isn't it? However, that's kind of what I envisioned for David without Maddie; a continued lifestyle of parties, booze and one-night-stands. I think the video got my point across I'm afraid you're right when it comes to whose happiness I was pining for. I'm looking at this from a woman's (and yes, I'll admit to it: a twelve-year-old teenager with a major crush) point of view. After Tess and Jillian, and David's destructive behavior because of it, I really wanted him to find some kind of peace. However, if I was only in it for David's happiness, then why can't I stomach him with anyone other than Maddie? Maybe it's like you said; the show made you get really invested in these characters. They were like family and any newly added member was closely scrutinized. Haha! I do love Maddie, though. I can relate to her, as I too sometimes feel a bit guided (and held back) by fear in some way. But that's just me getting personal With Moonlighting, you made another good point: you don't expect a comedy show to turn into something so heartwrenching. This show blindsided me and that notion still hasn't left me. Maybe that's what the problem is for me; this is where I learned that happy endings do not always occur. My very first 'fairy tale' that got ruined. Hahahaha!
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Post by satirise on Jan 10, 2021 18:05:35 GMT -5
Sandra, I'm quite prejudiced against videos like that, they're particularly annoying if you want a collection of clips to see if you'd enjoy some show, and they're all you can find, but I'll admit, especially given the bias that your description gave me, it was rather effective. Like we both said, Maddie could well be the straw that breaks David's back.
As to whether Maddie and David are a perfect fit, I'm inclined to say yes, but let me qualify that by saying that I'm very open to the possibility that their chemistry is clouding my judgment. This British sitcom about Shakespeare once made a point about how audiences tend to mistake fighting for chemistry, and chemistry for love, and love for being meant for each other... Okay, there were a few steps fewer. But this reminds me of what The Guardian once wrote about Ross and Rachel: that viewers saw two very indecisive people and labelled them a "will they, won't they" for the ages (ironically, the very same article named Maddie and David the greatest TV couple of all time).
At any rate, they were the only good people for each other within their amazingly small friend circle.
As for Marta's point 3, yes! I'm hoping (against hope) for a 4K release, maybe for the show's 40th. To my absolute lack of surprise, ABC belongs to Disney, and so, I suppose, does ML? Or not? IP likes to change owners... Still, I'd actually get Disney Plus to see it.
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Post by marta on Jan 18, 2021 9:22:12 GMT -5
Let me throw some spanners into your works!
1. On the matter of replacing Maddie. Out of the question. What would the show be about?
CCG said that it had come to him or Cybill leaving the show and he felt that the network would not choose him. So let’s rest this case and return to the show itself.
2. On the matter of writers being or not being familiar with the show.
Writers submit their episodes to producers. Producers decide whether to accept a story of an episode and how to implement it maintaining the integrity of the story line of the whole show. The producer of the second part of ML was Jay Daniel. He was with the show as co-producer from the beginning and was employed by GGC's production company (Picturemaker) throughout the whole series. What does it tell you?
3. On previous relationships of Maddie (she hadn’t had serious ones, you say) and a presumed lack of social life. We know very little about her life outside work hours and next to nothing about her life before she started working. David is frequently teasing her about lacking social life, but can we know anything for sure?
Her social life: She has an aunt in LA and there is a social circle of some sort, because the second client is arranged via her friend in RTMSTM. She is going somewhere all dressed up in NSM and has a crappy date (one of many she implies) in SIKF. We know of another one which was cancelled (TBOT). We do not know what she does at night and she may not go regularly to bed to sleep alone from 9.30 pm. Are the two former instances of dates (NSM & SIKF) a self-arranged pretence to make David believe that she has ‘a life’ (as it has been suggested elsewhere)? I do not think so, she is too much of a square for that, but we will never know anything for sure there. She does feel lonely in TNMYH.
How do we know Maddie didn’t have serious relationships before the Blue Moon? We don’t know.
We may tangle ourselves in definitional issues here but let’s have the most common understanding of the words and look at evidence of relationships such as we do have.
Maddie refused to discuss her intimate life with David in the car in TCOM. David is baiting her hard, she does not take it.
So let put the pieces together ourselves. Her father tells David about his worries when she kept very late nights still leaving at home (FKL). What does it suggest?
Maddie is a bit sheepish when she tells Agnes what she did in NYC during holidays (TSAR) and it may be not only because she did not study the road to spiritual awareness in Tibet. She shopped, ate and slept, she says, may be not alone, maybe with Sam? And in all probability not for the first time either? They might have arranged to holiday together in NYC. / EDIT: M says to Sam in IACM: ‘you… waltz in here after all those YEARS…’ it does not fit with the holidaying together half a year or so earlier. The remainder of argument still rings true. End of edit/ They know each other well. There is a visit and a return road trip from Boston to Chicago talked about (SAD). How could adult Sam say ‘I know what she needs etc’ if they knew each other only as children? She accuses Sam of proposing out of the blue in IACM, it may mean that he didn’t keep in touch enough, it is impossible that he didn’t keep in touch at all. He didn’t pay a visit in person recently to BOB episode as she was sexually frustrated in BOB, but he might have paid a visit in season 1 or 2 and we were not told.
It is very likely that there were special boys in college and that David surmises in TCOM are not far off the mark. There was Anthony on Park Avenue (‘who wasn’t married, just had a wife’ mentioned in WGC). So it might have been not very satisfying, but she knows more than one-night stands.
We do know that she does not have a serious relationship with a LOCAL person in season 2. She needs David to go to a wedding with her in FFADN (Sam could have been too busy to travel with her to Chicago). We also know that she does not have an EXCLUSIVE long term relationship from season 2 onwards. If she keeps in touch with Sam (by phone say, during the several months between NYC holidays and BOB episode, say) she may not be averse to very short term relationships (including one-night stands) as we have seen earlier in BCYSAB. She was very relaxed with Ritchie in BCYSAB, suggesting, perhaps, that she has done it before.
She is sexually starved in BOB, suggesting that her social circle is not delivering anything reliable in that respect. That is what we know. We have every reason to suspect that she may feel dissatisfied with her intimate relationships in seasons 1, 2 and 3, but it is not like being inexperienced in her whole life.
4. On Maddie being ‘trapped by her own fearful mind’. How wrong can you be, are we talking about the same show? Just kidding. But I hope I can convince you that this is not the case and make you happier. I just need time to go through the show and better prepare all the evidence, all the ammunition to shoot your preconceptions with references to episodes and scenes. Just for now: we are looking at a much improved, wiser and looser Maddie at the end of the show. She lets mascara run over her face in public, she says: forget a glass, give me a bottle! (LE). She has changed, she may not be blissfully happy, but she looks at least content. She says so in the dance scene (WGC). Pay attention how relaxed she is overall (yelling? no, door slamming? no), how collected she is even in emotionally painful scenes. And there is Det. Sgt. Donnigan circling around. She will be OK.
5. On whether Maddie and David are a perfect fit. I think you have answered it the best yourself, Satirise: ‘This British sitcom about Shakespeare once made a point about how audiences tend to mistake fighting for chemistry, and chemistry for love, and love for being meant for each other...’.
M and D lasting mutual loving relationship is impossible and does not have a future. They have too little in common. What do they have in common? They enjoy sex with each other. It is not going to be enough for the long term, is it? They do not commit.
6. On Sandra’s regret that ‘In season 4, they talk about an entire month of exploring the possibility of the two of them together, and we never saw any of it’. Sandra, you must re-watch the show. They say they spent a month in bed, up to ‘14 hours at a time’. This exploration couldn’t be shown much. Maddie says that if she ‘gave herself more to the relationship, she would be inside out’ (hmmm…). The show is more open about sex that you give it credit for.
I have been very cruel to you guys here. Prove me wrong then! Evidence, dear Watsons, evidence!
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Post by sandra on Jan 18, 2021 13:53:27 GMT -5
*breathes*
Here we go, Marta. The gloves are coming off. Hahaha! Just kidding.
A few things popped into my head with your post, the first one being about my regret that season 4 never showed David and Maddie exploring the possibility of a relationship. I wasn't referring to the sex, I meant that we don't see them try beyond the bedroom. Why didn't they go to the movies? Why didn't they have a few dinners together before Maddie pulled the plug? This frustrates me. They spend a lot of personal time together during the show, but that is in an employer-employee setting. Why not spend that same amount of time as a couple? What is the difference suddenly? I wanted to see some vulnerability on both ends. Of course, vulnerabitly is their main problem, isn't it?
You're right about us not being sure about Maddie's past relationships. A lot of it is left in the dark, that's why I didn't find it hard to picture Maddie having certain needs in BoB.
I'm aware that I've always looked at the entire story from a girl with a crush point of view (I wanted David to be happy in the end). I can admit to that. What I'm having a hard time with is that, if you're right and David and Maddie were never meant for more than sexual chemistry, what was the whole point of this show? Sure, the creators wanted us to have a few laughs (which we did), but the main theme that carried the entire series was the relationship between Maddie and David.
When I try to look at it from your point of view, Marta, I simply fail to understand Maddie. Why turn down Sam, who was the perfect guy for her in her book and who had so much in common with her? Why pine for David so badly all of a sudden? And... here comes the thing that bugs me the most: Why leave David hanging for four and a half months if you already know that you have nothing in common with each other, besides a satisfying sexual relationship? Why not let him down gently at that laundromat? Why leave your own company swimming? Why keep throwing "I love you's" around like it's just something you say out of decency? It's just not very... mature, and it gives the other party hope. Then again, she never told Sam face to face that she didn't want to marry him either. Is it a thing for her to take the easy way out? If you don't want to commit to anyone, be honest.
You say that Maddie is content at the end of season 5, but I see that David has become bitter and barely a shell of the man he was in seasons 1-3. It's just so depressing. Satarise and I agreed that Maddie may just be the straw that breaks David's back. No woman has ever been honest with him, have they? Maddie gives him that final nudge with her behavior. Even Cybill Shepherd agreed that Maddie marrying some guy out of the blue and coldly throwing it into David's face was not something the character would or should do. What's your take on that? And David not committing? He wanted to marry her and take care of the baby, despite who the father was. That's commitment in my book.
Anyway, this was me ranting as a David's girl. Hahahaha! Yep, there I went again. I'm beginning to realize that I'm actually quite cross with Maddie. Hahahahaha! I'm really trying to pull myself from the 'David mode' and see it from the other way around, but I'm coming up blank. Maybe Satarise has some answers.
Thank you for sparring with us, Marta. It's always interesting to see another person's perpective.
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Post by marta on Jan 18, 2021 17:32:13 GMT -5
Oh Sandra, thank you for your post.
I feel your pain, truly. I still have a crush on David, we all had a crush on David at some stage. I shall try to explain more how I see it all after I had some sleep! This is fun. And don't be cross with Maddie, you ARE Maddie. You may have a crush on David but you would not commit to him in real life.
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Post by marta on Jan 20, 2021 1:23:19 GMT -5
So there, I tried to make Sandra feel better about Maddie but it seems I haven’t done well! I will double my efforts but if I think more about Maddie I may get cross with her myself… Seriously, I would like to comment on the problems that you, Sandra, mentioned and try to explain how I think about them, but first we must establish whether my assertion that M and D do not commit to each other is true.
On whether Maddie commits to David Agnes proposed to Bert. Maddie never says anything beyond ‘I love you, David’.
On whether David commits to Maddie The closest to commitment that I could find in ML is David speech in ATFWMW, the last episode of Season 4. David: ‘I am going to be here when the baby comes and I will help you thorough that, so I guess it means that I have some kind of commitment to you.’ The baby does not make it and we do not hear about commitment again. There is also a significant, IMO, ‘exchange’ between them in the car leading to the above scene in ATFWMW. They converse through voiceovers. This is rare in ML but necessary here as the sentiments cannot be easily conveyed in any other way. David is scared of a new situation that they are facing (Maddie said that she loved him and he agreed to stay in the agency, she is going to have a baby). He is ‘not sure whether it is right’, he thinks ‘some people are better at arm's length than hand in hand’ and wonders whether they will ‘trade red hot tempers for a white picket fence’. He thinks it will lead him to adultery (searching for a D cup of sugar in the neighbourhood) while Maddie may lust after acquaintances.
She summarises it as ‘he’s wondering whether the idea of getting together was better than actually doing it will be’ and ‘he is looking at what we had been and losing faith in what we can be’. This could be dismissed as understandable pre-commitment jitters if we had something better than what followed and what followed was ‘some kind of commitment’. They seem to progress into happiness just before the miscarriage (AWWAW). They do not (and we do not) recover after the baby is lost.
Have I missed some other scene/s? I do wish I have.
To sweeten the realisation that neither of them offer more than as above… have a look at the following music video (Joe Jackson: You Can't Get What You Want Till You Know What You Want, 1984) www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo759np9-nM
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Post by sandra on Jan 20, 2021 9:23:57 GMT -5
Interesting how my ramblings are making you cross with Maddie yourself, Marta. I love these conversations I thought about your comments, and the one where you mention that I'm very much like Maddie (and that I wouldn't commit to David in real life) knocked me off my socks. Hahaha! You know, I always figured that I was more like David (save for his work ethics ). He and I share the same sense of humor... yes, even the crude sex jokes crack me up... and I absolutely enjoy acting like a big kid myself from time to time. A crazy mind is a joy forever! Hahaha! Nothing like Maddie in that department. But then your comment happened and it was like an epiphany. On a whole other level, I'm nothing like David at all. I lack his endless sense of positivity (why does the glass always have to be half full? ) and the fact that he just doesn't care about what other people think of him. When it comes to that, I'm a worry wart and yes, here we go... I overthink thinks. Sound familiar? Would I commit to David in real life? The answer to that shocked me; no, I wouldn't. David isn't 'safe' enough for me. I know, that sounds so boring when I say safe. Hahahaha! I need stability and he can't provide for that. He needs help with that himself. Now, this revelation propelled me into thinking about things from Maddie's side. I came up with an answer that might make us both a little less cross with her. Now, David is completely irresistable to Maddie-type women like us. We love the guy to pieces and we simply can't help ourselves. He's just so attractive with his over-confidence. I get how Maddie got roped in, tried to resist it for almost three years straight and in the end, fell into bed with him. Now that the initial attraction was dealt with, they needed to think about where to go from there. That's where it got tricky. Maybe Maddie, like myself, realized that he was not the kind of man who could give her what she needed in the end. Still, she was flat out in love with him and couldn't stay away. Therefore, she had to remove the temptation by fleeing to another part of the country. Once there, she started psycho-analyzing things to death. I think the reason why she kept stringing him along is because she couldn't let go yet; she knew that she didn't want a long-term relationship, but if she told him that, it would close the door to him forever and she wasn't ready for that to happen yet. Then, the baby situation happened, making things even more complicated and giving almost everyone a headache. What happens after that with Walter and that ridiculous marriage, I still can't explain. All I can say is, they shouldn't have written that in. Even if I'm less cross with Maddie now with my own psycho-analyzing, this is the part where she should have been honest with him. There, maybe this can make both of us feel better. Hahahaha! I'm still giving them a happy ending in my fanfictions, though Just a side note: Marta, you mentioning that I have a big heart over at that other post from that German character selling his/her product, really hit me right in the feels. You are too kind! Thank you! xxx
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