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Post by queensgirl on Jan 6, 2006 1:08:39 GMT -5
One of the loneliest things you'll ever see in the entire run: From " The Son Also Rises," after Maddie has discovered David in the back of the car...she is thoroughly disgusted with his behavior (wonder where she got that from)... After a considerable argument, she guns the car away from him, literally leaving tracks...and our boy is left standing in the parking space, muttering "Yeah, right..." as she peels away. He just stares at the car... You don't need any other words than that.
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Post by willisfan on Jan 6, 2006 6:33:09 GMT -5
One moment, that I think is very sad (or a little bit disappointing) is in "Knowing her" When Maddie finds out that there have been 2 shots and drives to the funeral to tell David and he doesn`t believe her (calling her a greeneyed snake)!!! Can men really be so blind? After all, Gillian was the one who left him without a word and he trusts her more then our Maddie???
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Post by ryangie97 on Jan 6, 2006 12:22:28 GMT -5
Queensgirl that was a sad scene! I always thought Maddie was a little tough on David there, maybe because she was a little jealous Willisfan, that's very true. He should have trusted Maddie, but I have to say Jillian was pretty slick and seemed to have David wrapped around her finger
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Post by Johanna on Jan 9, 2006 2:49:50 GMT -5
The whole episode Its a wondelful job is sad, but its also great for her to realize what she had. Even when she meets DiPesto its sad, a scene that usually would be funny. The ending is WOW, I think. But then I got so furiuos that they seemed to have forgotten all about it the next episode. But it was often like that. What they did in previous episode didnt affect the next as much as I would have liked it too...
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Post by queensgirl on Feb 1, 2006 1:37:01 GMT -5
The fight between David and Sam in "I Am Curious" is heart-wrenching--particularly the end, where Maddie, having just freaked out and run into the elevator, comes back to see a badly injured David on the ground. "Oh God, David," she gasps, and reaches out to touch him, but David stands up and gently traces the cuts himself. The look on his face is just awful. Not only because of the actual wound from the fight, but the shock, the defeat, and the jarring truth that Maddie ran away and hid when all this was going on. You just can't stand it at this point. Who among us didn't get out of our seats and cheer when Dave took that first pop at him? Come on, admit it. ;D Then, a few seconds later, Sam really gives it back to him and it's lucky the poor lad didn't wind up in the hospital. Talk about your quick reversals of fortune! Fans were like this: " Yeaaaah!... ;D Nooooo." The end of the scene is just unbelievably lonely. David wanders off, singing a happy song that is incredibly out of place and ironic, retreating from Maddie, and unable to be around Sam any longer because he very clearly lost. They get further and further away from each other; the camera goes back and forth between the people and it is notable that David does not turn back around again, nor does Maddie, for some reason accepting his decision, shed a tear.
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Post by ryangie97 on Feb 1, 2006 14:26:44 GMT -5
Fans were like this: " Yeaaaah!... ;D Nooooo." I believe that was exactly my reaction! I always feel so sorry for poor Dave in that scene
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Post by queensgirl on Feb 11, 2006 10:02:54 GMT -5
The end of "Blonde on Blonde." Sigh. Definitely a real heartbreaker, one of the most intense of such in the whole series. Dave walks up to the house, picks the flowers and tries to get himself psyched up for the momentous things he wants to say. That keyboard loop starts to play, and it will over-set the whole scene from when David gets out of the cop car until all the way later when the house door shuts and the actual song can begin. It's weird and unsettling, and sets us up for the fact that uh-oh, something bad is about to happen. And then-- Doom. You-know-who answers the door. After the other man shuts the door and Dave turns to walk away, Dave takes another look at the house. Notice the flinch of shock, sadness and pain on his face. Does anyone else get the idea he was thinking, “How could you?” at this point—almost as if Maddie were cheating on him, even though technically I don’t think it could be said he and Maddie were seeing each other yet? (She did say she wanted to meet somebody, and even though we will eventually find out Sam is not some random guy she just met, Dave doesn't know that at this point, and neither do we. Also, since Maddie is single, she could theoretically be looking for somebody anyway, even before she announced her plans. So why does David have this proprietary attitude? It could only be because of the way he felt, which was at some point bound to motivate him even though it took some prompting.) His feelings for her were so strong he seems to have considered her to belong to him long before she actually did. He’s had a sense of this unity with her, which in part comes from the fact that he pretty much fell for her the moment they met. Thus even though they were not together by the time of “Blonde,” he takes this event as betrayal. (Metaphorically, the tension and the relationship between them could be taken as almost parallel to a marriage. They are very close, long before they actually get together. They fight a lot, ha ha, in the way it’s been said you can only do if you have strong feelings for one another. But through most of the show they manage to stay together and continue to support one another, both emotionally and literally through the act of working together. The last two seasons could even be seen as an analogy for a separation and then a divorce.) Maybe the reason he doesn't often talk about his feelings in so many words is that he thinks she already knows. Remember his famous words in 'I Am Curious': "I don't have to say anything. You know it, and I know it. You feel it, and I feel it." I don't think it applies to only that moment.
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Post by ryangie97 on Feb 11, 2006 10:24:02 GMT -5
Very true Queensgirl. I agree with everything you just said. I do think David had kind of thought of them as a couple, even though they weren't technically. I think maybe David even stayed away from other women, well except for the ogling in All Creatures Doesn't he say in Sam and Dave "When was the last time I sent you out on a stakeout alone because I wanted to go out and get...."
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Post by adyjdy on Feb 11, 2006 14:55:40 GMT -5
I think, as usual, you've hit the nail right on the head, queensgirl. Fidelity is a MAJOR theme in this arc. A quote in Sam and Dave sums this up best for me. Maddie says, "Maybe something like fidelity isn't that easy to define. Maybe it's not that black and white." B-I-N-G-O! I would even go so far as to say that pensive look at the end of S&D when she's in bed with Sam is one of guilt. (Plus, I could SWEAR she mouths "David" right there at the end.) I also see it in her face when she comes in to the office in the morning in Maddie's Turn to Cry. That is the first time I recall her saying she's glad David isn't in the office yet. I think she didn't/couldn't face him after what "she'd done to him."
I've been thinking about this idea of them being "married" without actually being married for a LONG time. I was in junior high during the original run, so there are a lot of things I'm seeing now that as a child I really coudn't appreciate. Now that I am married, I can see that they TOTALLY act married! I don't even really mean the fighting, though there are PLENTY of examples of that. I really mean more times when there is just this assumption of trust between them, an assumption that the other is and always will be there. Just a couple examples and then I'll shut up: 1.) When he covers her mouth the first time in Witness. Her face and the way she takes his hand just assumes he would never do anything to hurt her. 2.) When he surprises her on the stairs in Atlas. She's startled, but they both act like he just belongs there... (Matter of fact, I'm convinced he slept on her couch that night.) 3.) His comment on the plane in Big Man. "Only for the next 20 or 30 years, then I'm going to need [my shoulder] back." The implication there is HUGE and she knew it.. so did he.
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Post by ryangie97 on Feb 11, 2006 15:53:06 GMT -5
Excellent points adyjdy!
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Post by blonde91 on Feb 13, 2006 12:36:10 GMT -5
FOR ME THE MORE SAD SCENE IS THE END OF LUNAR ECLIPSE...HOW SADNESS WHEN I HAVE SEEN THAT!!!!
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Post by queensgirl on Mar 17, 2006 14:52:00 GMT -5
" A fine time was had by all. A fine time was had by all... Now he wants me to believe he interrupted my dinner to talk to me about Herbert Viola." --Maddie says this as she walks into her office and shuts the door behind her, in " Maddie's Turn to Cry." In a deeply sad gesture, she stares down and wonders aloud what's it really all been about. David had something to say, which must have been highly personal or he wouldn't have to try so hard; also, there's the fact that he keeps going after Maddie when she is in the presence of her boyfriend. That must mean something as well. It has to be, then, that dreaded four-letter word, starts with L, that Joan kept after David about in the cell. She's been playing it cool, reluctant to let her suspicions be clear in public, but Ms. Hayes isn't as clueless in the battle of the hearts as she first appeared. During the first two episodes, it was difficult to tell if she really knew what David meant by all his antics, but here it seems she actually saw the truth too. Her panic here echoes David's monumental struggles to put his true feelings into words. Maddie adds two and two and arrives at, what do you know, four. In this short but effective scene, when she tries but completely fails to relax, you can see why the episode title refers to tears.
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Post by queensgirl on May 1, 2006 14:40:28 GMT -5
Several of the early episodes can be said to be rather bleak in tone. There isn't as much levity in them, as we haven't been able to see the characters for very long, and I think the writers were still figuring out what to do with them. Nevertheless, at times they do manage to demonstrate the series trademark of glimpses into the true nature of the characters. In The Next Murder You Hear, David, already under the spell of his attraction for Maddie, is furious not only at Maddie's preoccupation with radio host Paul McCain, but at her antipathy toward Dave himself. "She thinks I'm weird. Kinky. Unfeeling. I'm not, you know," Dave rambles in a wretched drunken monologue heard by nobody but the handful of stragglers at the bar. "You know what I think? I think she’s hung up on this other guy. Not that I care, I don’t care. I’m just hurt, that’s all. I mean, I think if she’s gonna go for somebody, she should go for me! That’s all. Not that she has to go for me. I mean, I don’t—really care about anything, I don’t—okay, all right, all right, I’m insecure! I admit it, it’s out, all right, okay? It’s normal, right? Did I happen to mention this other guy is dead?...Sure has calmed down here.” Oh, what a revelation it would be, if only Maddie were here to listen. But she's not: already, a symbolic way to demonstrate Hayes' concentration on work and her inability to recognize just how serious David's feelings are. The bartender, normally Addison's pal, hints he should leave. Thus, David might as well be alone. To add insult to injury, nobody cares about what he has to say: in a few minutes, even the janitor is gone, leaving David to fall off his chair--but he's so bad off, he still tries to talk from the floor. “Oh, I guess I’ve had my limit. You and me have to get together and do this again sometime, Stinky, we think alike!...Hey, Stinky, you missed a spot over here.” Loneliness, personified. Although they're not said by one of the permanent characters, some lines by Farley Wrye in Gunfight at the So-So Corral are especially effective. I watched this one recently and positively teared up when he talked about his years underground in France, how he was getting sick and about to die--twice as scary, because he doesn't look that old--and in the scene in the junkyard where he talks about trying to remember all the people he killed. When he says, "I remember the quality of darkness," if chills don't run up and down your spine, I tell you, there's something wrong.
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Post by lin212 on May 1, 2006 18:19:19 GMT -5
Great posts, everyone. I cannot comment on Seasons 4 and 5 since I haven't seen them since they aired originally and I don't remember them well. Of the first 3 seasons, the end of Blonde on Blonde does it for me. I absolutely cannot watch that eppy all the way through and even though I love the song "Since I Fell", I cannot stand to listen to that either. I just see David standing there in the rain - it's way too painful. As a matter of fact, even the Moonlighting theme gets to me sometimes because it reminds me of what could have been.
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Post by haddie mayes on May 2, 2006 7:58:13 GMT -5
All the above mention scenes bring a lump to my throat but there is one scene that hasn`t been mentioned yet!. It`s the one from `Tracks Of My Tears`when Maddie tells David he isn`t the father!! it`s the look on Davids face that really gets to me ,in that one brief moment he has that look of shock and sheer disbelief as though his world has just fallen apart! :'(But in usual Addison style he covers up his true feelings and starts making jokes to Maddie about Sam and her new hubby( if only Maddie had known how David was falling apart inside).
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