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Post by Veronica on Jun 27, 2006 7:05:37 GMT -5
I voted 10, of course
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Post by haddie mayes on Aug 7, 2006 19:22:51 GMT -5
I can`t believe that i haven`t given my vote on this one yet - don`t know why?
Anyway i give this one full marks too ! although saying i do tend to watch To Heiress .... slightly more but..... i just love the way in which the two off them restle with their true feelings and even up to the very end Maddie is still trying to convince herself - and David that she doesn`t want him and that her reason for turning down Sam had nothing to do with David ( as if we or David believed that for a second). I loved it back in 1987 and i love it even more now in 2006 , even more so because i can look at the whole arc thing from a mature adult point of view. i have a much better understanding than i did as a love struck teenager!.
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Post by graycav56 on Aug 31, 2006 10:59:19 GMT -5
I'm relatively new to the forum, but I have to hand it to queensgirl. Her posts are always insightful, thought provoking and at times have caused me to rethink my long held beliefs about certain topics/episodes/scenes. Thanks Queensgirl!
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Post by gypsygem81 on Nov 18, 2006 10:44:29 GMT -5
I, for one, am not impressed with Sam's breakfast making skills.
"I just wanted to show you I could make a mean bowl of cornflakes"
Why the heck would anyone want strawberries in their cornflakes?! Talk about ruining a good thing.
Personally, if my man tried to feed me that, I'd also terminate that relationship PDQ. If I had a man, that is.
Love Gem
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Post by babyhayes on Nov 21, 2006 4:57:23 GMT -5
LOL Gem!!! Thank you so much, you have just cheered me up big time! I think exactly the same thing about the strawberries but daren't say anything as I thought maybe I'm just common and that's the upmarket way to eat your cereal. Well if it is, I'm more than happy to keep being a common little peasant girl.
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Post by gypsygem81 on Nov 21, 2006 15:34:50 GMT -5
LOL Gem!!! Thank you so much, you have just cheered me up big time! I think exactly the same thing about the strawberries but daren't say anything as I thought maybe I'm just common and that's the upmarket way to eat your cereal. Well if it is, I'm more than happy to keep being a common little peasant girl. Well, it maybe something like that, in which case I'm also common. But I can't see what class has to do with the fact that strawberries just don't go with cornflakes. Simple as. Glad I cheered you up Love Gem
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Post by bluemooner on Dec 3, 2006 10:02:20 GMT -5
LOL
then i'm common too!
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Post by Tamm on Dec 3, 2006 10:39:40 GMT -5
But strawberries do go well in porridge ...
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Post by skipsquat on Feb 14, 2007 14:06:00 GMT -5
I agree with everyone about the sneakers and coat in bed. It was weird and so totally un-Maddie.
As for Sam, I think he was thoughtful to a fault. He understands Maddie's confusion and, wanting to spare her further agony, he goes to David and basically tells him to step up or leave it alone, to tell Maddie where he stands so that she can sort things out and make a decision. And, when you think about how silent - and violent (trashing his office, starting a fight with Sam) - David was in this episode, it is easy to understand why Maddie might be afraid to make a choice.
Overall, I still have mixed emotions about this episode. When it first aired, it had been well advertised what would happen, so it was a little frustrating to see them drag the anticipation out to the last two minutes of the show before finally bringing Maddie and David together. I always thought the earlier scene in which David chases Maddie, then she turns and asks him how he feels, should have played out differently. Instead of being angry and silent, (I think) he should given her that "don't you know the answer?" smirk, leaned in and kissed her, but good. Then, he could have told her to let him know when she had made up her mind and left the room. But, that's just me. *G*
Having said that, I have come to love the "Be My Baby" moment and give the episode an 8.
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on Apr 13, 2007 6:20:19 GMT -5
It's a 10! And not just for that great grand finale! ;D
First reactions before catching up to the rest of the thread - in no particular order:
The whole episode was well-done.
Liked: The argument between Maddie and Sam in the car after the David/Sam fight. It was well acted by Cybill and Mark and for once these two characters weren't boring to watch together on-screen.
Liked: The whole scene from the time David goes after them in the garage through the brief altercation. Sam really walloped him and it made me wince for our hero but I just thought Bruce portrayed the fall very well. And it was nice to see for the second time that Sam wasn't so holier-than-thou. Did you notice the kill instinct in his eyes?
Disliked: Sam was completely out of line to secretly discuss Maddie with David like she was some nimcompoop that needed her mind made up for her through manipulation. I know she said she wished someone would tell her what to do but she just meant that she wished the decision could be easy. Sam’s little speech came off as pompous, insecure, presumptuous…and he was insulting the man in his own home – which he entered uninvited!
About the phone call – was Maddie supposed to blurt out to her mother, in Sam’s presence, that Sam proposed to her when she hadn’t even given him an answer? He was angry about that like he had a right to be.
Okay, I have to get ready for work - unfortunately. I’ll continue my critique later today…
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on Apr 13, 2007 18:32:50 GMT -5
Yay, I'm home from work and weekend has begun! ;D I've eaten strawberries in Corn Flakes before, but it was more like one strawberry cut in thin slices - not big giant clumps terrorizing the Flakes. So that's what that was. I didn't recognize Sam's breakfast feast as a bowl of cereal with fruit. He said what it was after the camera shot of it, right? Maybe I need to watch the episode again next time I get the chance (I had to return a few ML discs today). When Sam said he made breakfast...ummm, I wasn't expecting no friggin Corn Flakes, man. Maddie should give him the boot right there. Must have been his revenge on her for leaving him in the middle of the night. Well, was David a sly dog or what? He lay there, not revealing himself to Maddie while she spilled her guts – to Sam. I guess that’s part of why he was so infuriatingly cocky afterwards. Sure, she admitted she loved him but not to him, to Sam – plus, she was going to sleep with Sam again! I’m certain David felt a little piqued about that. I liked their whole explosive confrontation and capitulation at the end of IACM this time around. When I saw this ep 20 years ago I was a little disappointed because I wanted them to come together sweetly, not with slaps and broken furniture. However, watching the seasons all at once it’s apparent that with their frenetic hot/cold interactions while falling more and more for each other while not admitting it, it's unlikely that they would finally come together the first time in a gentle manner. Besides, the extended living room kiss and the following bedroom kiss were so exciting and passionate that they made up for the maddening two year build up of tension! I can understand Maddie trying to put up walls even while indignantly telling David that she would be under his skin for a long time. (Or was this in "To Heiress"?) As others on the board have expressed, from Maddie’s point of view: they are very different, they tend to argue a lot which isn’t really pleasant (funny to us of course, but not to her!) and David has often displayed a cavalier attitude about women and sex. It’s not exactly what a woman looks for when choosing a mate. Naturally she’s scared of how a relationship with David would turn out even though she has fun with him and sees a lot of goodness in him. She could get burned badly if she isn’t careful. While I do think Maddie’s life as Sam’s wife would eventually leave her unfulfilled, she would be ‘safe’ with him – for a time. Sam wanted to build a comfy nest with her, to commit to marriage. With David it’s been constant bursts of fire and ice with moments of sweetness peppering what has been a land of denial and covert ‘non-courtship.’ It’s been the difference between a kind of dull peace (Sam) and provocative exhaustion (D) Oh, and I thought David pulling at the car door and telling Maddie to get out because he wanted to talk to her was exciting! Even though he remained silent during the big open invitation from Maddie to let it all out just an hour or less ago (?), I would have opened that door since he seemed to finally be fired up to talk -again. I didn’t think he was scary, just frustrated and passionate. And I liked it! It’s David, y’ know? The little ‘musical car seat’ shuffle was kinda cute too.
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on Apr 17, 2007 0:09:40 GMT -5
For the last two days I can't get the line "two years of 'is we is or is we ain't'..." out of my head.
I must say Bruce and Cybill rocked that scene. I like the very rhythm and cadence of their long intense argument. They just vibed off one another beautifully. Never seen anything else like it on TV.
The final scene of "Curious" is right up there with Who Shot JR? and Luke and Laura's wedding. Heck, it's right up there with Princess Di's wedding! Thank goodness for YouTube.
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Post by bluemooner on Apr 17, 2007 12:24:46 GMT -5
That scene is still as great today as it was 20 years ago. Bruce & Cybill are amazing together.
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Post by Frontier on Jul 17, 2007 13:36:41 GMT -5
The epitome of two years of sexy banter and innuendo. Simply awesome, even today!
10+++
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Post by nazel on Jun 3, 2008 20:44:21 GMT -5
^lol aren't you reading too much into it ? I gave this a 10, my favourite episode ever .. I always say I like moonlighting cause of the comedy .. but who am I kidding, I like the dramatic parts even more
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