Post by maddieaddisonjr on Apr 26, 2007 21:37:48 GMT -5
honeyblonde, you want to hear something weird? I'm going through Baby Hayes withdrawal! LOL I've decided to treat myself to all five seasons of ML for my birthday later this year. I must have Baby Hayes here with me. And I'll forever skip the sad ending. In my wild imagination all of season 5 is totally different anyway.
I love the creativity of this episode. The introduction of Baby Hayes to the concepts of good and evil is very interesting, and I think Bruce does a great job of playing the baby. I love his reactions to first seeing his mom and his dad too. Thank heavens they at least acknowledged that the father was David. A small bone thrown to the fans, who really deserved it. And the show had another winner in its casting of the guardian angel.
But the last ten minutes of the show are tough. I actually think the show did the right thing in getting rid of the baby and doing so with some humor, but man did their timing stink. No way this show should have been a season premiere, much less a season premiere that took so long to get on the air. You don't sucker punch your audience, even if it is for their own good, on the first day back, especially an audience that has shown tremendous good will and patience by tuning back in after so much time and so much crap had transpired. I blame the writers' strike as much as anything else for really killing off the show, for it was the strike that prolonged Maddie's pregnancy from hell and made getting out of that ill-fated plot choice completely untenable. Imagine if the show could have reset itself before the 4th season ended and maybe before GGC left. Ah, what could have been.
Post by maddieaddisonjr on May 29, 2007 19:31:43 GMT -5
Hiya, Davnee! I'm curious about your thoughts on the baby as a part of the show throughout season 5. Personally, I liked the idea that D and M would be parents and was looking forward to how the writers would handle their relationship with each other and the baby as well as a return of real cases for them to solve as detectives. It might have been tricky to write but I think (from the comfortable position as just a viewer) it could have worked and would have been wonderfully fresh. I think some believe the baby would have killed the show, but I seriously doubt that. Anything would have made season 5 better than the actually season we got. What do you think, my fellow Moonlighter?
I totally agree with you jr. that them having the baby would have been better than what we ended up getting in Season 5. In retrospect, knowing that season 5 was it and that there was not going to be any return to the old Moonlighting anyway, a season filled with baby gags and a domestic David and Maddie would have been a sweeter fade to black. But it would have almost certainly been a fade to black, because I just don't see how they would have kept the show energized without the tension between Maddie and David. Fall back on the mysteries? The mysteries were never that good. They were just backdrop for Maddie and David's dance.
The baby was always a bad idea because it was a tension killer. How were they going to battle with a baby in the picture? Banter in hushed voices? That's no fun. And would you ever really believe that one might leave the other once they were raising a child together? A baby would have killed the chase. Seeing them with a baby is like seeing their afterglow. A wonderful, rewarding moment to watch, deeply satisfying to the fan, but then what? Boredom sets in if there is not a new conflict, a new battle that they have to wage to get together.
Post by maddieaddisonjr on Jun 9, 2007 21:38:28 GMT -5
I can see where you're coming from, Davnee. I wouldn't have minded S5 being the last season, the fade to black, with a lot of afterglow and half-baked mysteries and baby giggles interrupting some (still) fiesty witty banter. For me, if they started down the pregnancy road then they should have seen it through to the happy end, even at the risk of cancellation, rather than try to erase S4 and awkwardly reboot the series with the hope of hanging on for another season or two.
I gave this an 8 .. I wasn't that heartbroken about the baby, maybe cause I thought that's what it was supposed to happen since I knew she was gonna lose it before she even had it lol .. But I don't know, I wanted Moonlighting to go back to the way it was, funny banter, constant silly fights instead of those real dramatic painful fights that didn't really entertain me, I just hate the singing & the dancing, it just doesn't suit ML I wiush they would stop doing that .. But Baby Hayes was so funny, I can't believe Bruce pulled that off, he's like a guy's guy!
Diane I agree with you that the singing and dancing after the baby's death (if she was more than 5 months pregnant she would have had to give birth to a dead baby) was in very bad taste. It should have been sad and poignant not a dance routine! Terrible!
Ok I can’t believe I’m gonna put myself through continuing with this season in my rewatch but I’ve started now and going to see how far I get. I don’t know what to say about this one that has not already been said by others here but here’s my current thoughts after watching this In it’s entirety for the first time in several years. When this aired I think I remember liking this episode for the most part. Now, there’s just not much here that I like. The sing and dance number felt like another time filler and was just not fun. I did not like the scene with David interviewing the so called nannies. Very out of character for David at this point in the series In my opinion. After the last episode I expected to see them being more of a couple but sure does not seem that way. I hate the way the loss of the baby was handled don’t even want to go there as others here have expressed that very well. Didn’t like the terrible husband comment. Any positives this viewing? Well I do love the photo album part, confirming that David really is the father, the short but sweet scene of the two dancing, and David at the end saying he will be there with her. I’m left really wishing we could have seen David and Maddie as parents☹️All that build up for nothing.