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Post by lin212 on Oct 23, 2007 6:48:47 GMT -5
In light of all the real problems with this episode, I know that this is really really picky, but it bothers me every time I watch it. Has anyone else noticed that the name of one of the characters suddenly changes in the middle of this epi? The scene between Agnes, MacGillicuddy and Bert in the office right after the elevator bit - Dennis Spring is now referred to as Michael Spring. Makes me cringe every time.
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Post by nazel on Jul 12, 2008 18:22:33 GMT -5
Argh, they really overdo the Breaking the 4th wall thing, it's really annoying & makes the show kinda stupid, the episode was alright I guess, I liked the elevator scene, but the chase was very cheesy, so I give a 7 although I can't vote for some reason
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Post by iluvdavid on Dec 27, 2011 7:59:48 GMT -5
The parts I liked in the elevator scenes are when they are both taking peeks at each other without wanting the other to see they are looking. Typical Maddie and David.
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Post by iluvdavid on Dec 27, 2011 8:01:07 GMT -5
Diane I just read your comment apart David whistling the same song! It does make so sense!
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Post by kendraluehr on Dec 10, 2012 2:01:32 GMT -5
I give it a six, but only for the (first part) of the elevator scene. I know many of you guys don't like it, but coupled with the great acting/beautiful background scene, it really moved me. :/ It was the first real glimpse of vulnerability that we ever see in Maddie, so I liked that. DEFINITELY wish they'd done something other than the gospel songs, though. Maddie doesn't even believe in God, so how does she know all the words to those religious songs?
Anyway, I do agree that the episode should've been geared more toward the grieving process opposed to going, "Ok, that's a wrap with the baby storyline -- moving on!" I actually feel like S5 was better than S4, though, since Bruce and Cybill were able to have scenes together again. Some of the episodes I liked/actually laughed at, so it definitely wasn't a total failure. S4, on the other hand, I could've done without (save for a select few moments).
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Post by vic on Oct 29, 2018 13:38:14 GMT -5
I just watched this having NOT watched much if any of Seasons 4 or 5.
I thought it was alright. Maddie was looking GREAT! There was one episode, the one where they introduced her cousin A**** (we can't spell out her name?) Damn, she looked and acted like an old maid in that one. David looked cool, not wearing his usual white shirt and loosened tie.
I thought the 4th wall breaks were great. Quite a bit of it here, and it was just funny. "I carried this place!" "You buried this place!" "We can't take it, THEY (pointing at the viewers) can't take it!" So they even acknowledged the Agnes/Herbert-centric episodes AND how ratings declined when it happened. Hilarious. Herbert even wants to replace David in the company. lol. I just loved how they acknowledged all the stuff, and yet it also tied into the story. 'Bert saying he carried the place, meaning the Blue Moon Agency, but can also be interpreted as carrying the show. Agnes mentioning that it seems that David and Maddie never seem to be the in the same room together, which was in response to Willis and Shepherd having separate shooting schedules because of pregnancy and film. David busting out with the switchblade, and saying he thought he might need it for later in the episode. Good stuff.
The comedy was okay, but I felt that once David started lashing out at the elevator music speaker and Maddie starting to cry, it should have taken a serious turn. That was a great moment, heartfelt when they embrace, then next thing you know their singing religious songs? Singing and skipping outside the elevator? That little emotional moment where David is raging and Maddie is crying had the potential to be another great, emotional episode like we saw towards the end of Season 3 with Maddie's Turn to Cry, where David is struggling to tell Maddie how he feels.
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Post by bertviola on Nov 4, 2018 16:24:39 GMT -5
A solid 7. I like this episode, it reminds me of the earlier shows. What brings it down from a better rating is the way they handle the loss of the baby and the anti-climactic ending(although the balloon chase in itself wasn't too bad). But I like when they drive out(it's like in the lady with the Iron Mask), their banter and talks...feels like Moonlighting:).
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Post by ryangie97 on Feb 26, 2019 22:42:08 GMT -5
How do I loathe this episode? Let me count the ways. - The characterization is terrible. David abandons Maddie leaving her to grieve alone. And then he's downright nasty to her for coping through work when he does bother to show up. What did I miss between this and last week's hospital scene? The writers never contextualize David's jarring attitude. This befuddling and upsetting characterization is a gigantic sign of what is to come throughout Season 5, which was written as if the writers and producers had never even met Maddie and David. - The writers stick a fork in the relationship of David and Maddie and they don't even have the guts to give voice to it. The elevator scene is a gargantuan cop-out. I'm supposed to buy this craptastic moment of silent awkwardness as the dramatic reconciliation of the characters and the narrative reset of the whole show? The single most important moment in Season 5, the moment that will tell us what the future of Moonlighting is going to be about now that the demons of Season 4 have literally been killed before our very eyes last week, and the writers can't even come up with any dialogue?! And when they do walk out of that elevator, it is Agnes, Bert and MacGillicuddy that give voice to the reconciliation. They tell us how Maddie and David are feeling now. How everything is raw and tenuous between them. Screw that. I want to see Maddie and David's feelings for each other for myself, not get clued into it by some lazily written exposition given to the third wheels. As if all that is not bad enough, Maddie and David spend the rest of the episode plowing through a series of scenes featuring tone-deaf slapstick and zero emotional engagement between the leads. Yep, sign me up for more. Looks like it is going to be a great season. - The reinvention of Moonlighting as The Three Stooges on steroids. This episode is replete with completely unfunny slapstick. I mean what's with the freakin' birds?! The writers are so desperately bad here that they can't even think up a narrative justification for the sight gag. And the balloon chase is painfully awful. Silly, climactic chases were a Moonlighting staple, and they were funny because they always pulled them off with a wink and a nod to the zaniness. But Season 5 chases were not pulled off with a wink and a nod to slapstick - a pie in the face here, a stooges yuk by David there - but rather a sledgehammer. The slapstick became so utterly self-conscious and unsubtle during Season 5 that it lost all its charm. This episode was just the first harbinger for the lack of sophistication that was to come. - The abuse of the fourth wall begins. The show not only devolved into naked, nonstop slapstick during this season, but also used the breaking of the fourth wall as a constant crutch. Can't think up a plot point, just tear down the fourth wall and tell us you are cheating, or go ahead and tell us we are about to laugh at something (which of course meant we weren't going to laugh at all). Like the convenient placement of the knife in this episode. Go to that well too many times and it loses all its charm. Moonlighting became a parody of itself in this season. Breaking the fourth wall had always been this charming tool of self-awareness, a wink to the fact that this was just a tv show. But by the 5th Season, Moonlighting started satirizing the satire. Before the joke had been on the medium. Now the joke was on the show itself. And the new joke wasn't half as funny. For me this episode puts us on the road to the big "screw you for loving us rather than just laughing at us" moment in Lunar Eclipse, and I hate it for that. Okay, so this was a long vent, but I really do loathe this episode for all that it represents and for all that it started to take away. I do have one nice thing to say about it though: the "sire" scene between Bert and Maddie is hysterical. Her reaction to him is priceless as is the sight gag of him falling off the desk. Completely fitting and prophetic that the best moment of this show, that the best moment of the episode that was meant to reset the series and give it a fresh start, would not be a Maddie/David moment. This about sums up everything I thought watching this again. The first 3 seasons were a perfect balance of romance and comedy, it's just all over the place here. The chase scenes were always wacky but here David is just goofy, and well Maddie is too. I do like the elevator scene up to the singing part.
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Post by ryangie97 on Feb 26, 2019 22:51:03 GMT -5
i love when m/d sit together on the couch...both times. love when maddie grabs his hand and then doesn't let go. david is so suprised he almost does a double take, then he continues to hold her hand. [/quote] That caught my attention as well. Loved that part.
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