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Post by jpen on Nov 24, 2008 21:58:30 GMT -5
OH...I forgot a point I wanted to make. I've got to disagree with the notion that Annie didn't need to exist. Maddie hurt David deeply, and it affected the fans and their feelings about her. She takes some steps back in making it up to David, but in a very common writer's device, they MAKE HER PAY. She needs to suffer something similar to what she put David through before they can reconcile. And the fact that it is so heavy handed is because of the rush to get it in before the show ended. Remember....LE came up after the cancellation.......according to the numbering of the episodes, season 5 was originally planned to end with Perfetc......and the cliffhanger invitation to Paris. Diane-thank you so much for this; I didn't know that Perfetc was supposed to be the last ep of the season...that explains a lot. And you've helped put the Annie arc in perspective--thanks for lowering my blood pressure a few points!
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Post by italianbluemooner on Nov 24, 2008 22:00:27 GMT -5
You know what, troops? I just couldn't understand WHY the whole A***e thing could've happened... After David and Maddie's stay in Paris?! I mean, things were running smoothly between the two of them until Perfetc, weren't they? They were calm, relaxed, at ease... WHY THE DEVIL would David need A***e??? Well, Diane cleared this dilemma for me. Thank you, Diane!
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Post by callmeditzy on Nov 24, 2008 22:01:56 GMT -5
"Remember....LE came up after the cancellation.......according to the numbering of the episodes, season 5 was originally planned to end with Perfetc......and the cliffhanger invitation to Paris." diane
This is the first I've heard of this! Very intriguing! What's the whole story? If Perfetc was supposed to be the season finale, does that mean season five was supposed to be only nine episodes?!
Also, I agree with Diane as well. I know that I had a hard time getting over how much David suffered because of Maddie's actions and, even though it was painful because I love Maddie, too, part of me felt like she needed to feel some kind of loss where David was concerned. What I mean is that I think she kind of took him for granted through all of season four and, like David said in MHGM, I don't think she truly understood how much she hurt him. So I do think some kind of retribution story was in order. It's just a shame that we didn't get to see how the aftermath would play out.
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Post by italianbluemooner on Nov 24, 2008 22:03:01 GMT -5
THREE CHEERS FOR DIANE!
HIP-HIP HOORAY HIP-HIP HOORAY HIP-HIP HOORAY!!! ;D
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Post by beesnbears on Nov 24, 2008 22:08:21 GMT -5
"THREE CHEERS FOR DIANE!
HIP-HIP HOORAY HIP-HIP HOORAY HIP-HIP HOORAY!!!"
I know I could toast to that!!!
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Post by diane on Nov 24, 2008 22:13:10 GMT -5
Please....no Hip Hipping!
I think I learned this fact way back when from a cast member..and shamefully, I don't remember all of the details. Let me go through some of my notes and stuff and see what I can find. I know I did a lot of research on when the cancellation was official, and what happened from then.
I may have to appeal to Cindy to help with my recollections!
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Post by italianbluemooner on Nov 24, 2008 22:16:01 GMT -5
We have trust in you, Diane! ;D
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Post by rose35 on Nov 24, 2008 23:08:01 GMT -5
Ok i am not sure if i knew this eye opened of a story, pover the years i've read many from this board ,etc so it may have slipped my memory losing mind (twins will do that to ya! )LOL So correct me if i'm worong: The An**e arc was suppossed to be in the middle of the 5th season and Perfetc was to have happened after all those episodes at the end ? But for some reason they changed it once they heard cancelled? If so wow would that have been great and we could have gotten a great season 6 opener! UGH oh the possibilities are killing me! LOL
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Post by italianbluemooner on Nov 24, 2008 23:16:51 GMT -5
It seems to be so... However we're waiting for Diane to give us the details... Now I wanna ask you something: WHY did most US people stop watching ML, back in the 80s? I mean, I know Season 5's scripts were a bummer... But what about loyalty? I'm sure you guys didn't let David and Maddie down until the very end... But what about the rest of the U.S.A. ?? If the share had not sunk... Who knows? Maybe we could've had a Season 6!
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Post by beesnbears on Nov 24, 2008 23:51:05 GMT -5
Well, I didn't stop watching!!! People lost patience, got tired of repeats, and Maddie and David were not really together, the strike, writitng staff changing....just a whole lot of things that made people stop watching.
I think the really loyal fans endured to the end, but it was all about money and ratings......
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Post by italianbluemooner on Nov 25, 2008 0:02:38 GMT -5
Ohh... I get the picture. In a nutshell, ML was not ML anymore, right? It wasn't what people wanted to see... Ugh! So I guess it all started with Glenn Gordon Caron leaving......Then the writing staff kept on changing, so they lost sight of the reference frame.......Therefore bad scripts (I mean, non-ML scripts) were written.....Then repeats, repeats, repeats....... and then the strike was the kiss of death.... No wait... The strike took place on March 7, 1988..... Right, I remember the last 8 minutes of "And The Flesh Was Made Word"... So it's the other way around: First the strike (after the end of Season 4)...My goodness, Wikipedia says it lasted five months?!? I'm shocked and appalled... Then GGC left after "A Womb with a View", then the writers mess...etc. etc. etc. Correct? It seems to me a lot of things conspired to ruin ML... That's sad...... ML didn't deserve such an inglorious end. It's not fair. I guess that's life... Though I'm thankful we have what we have!
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Post by sinceifell4u on Jan 1, 2009 23:50:23 GMT -5
Hi all~ I love the show, the only thing I don't like about season 4 is the shows without David and Maddie~their chemistry was great, that can't be denied. For the mid 80's, it was a ground breaking show from the love scenes to the lighting and cinematography etc. Basically they had too many chefs which spoiled the soup~there should have been more recognition of the actors feel for their characters by the producers. They should have been more adult and professional about the work and pleasing their audience; that goes both ways...as it is often said "1 monkey don't stop no show". I still love them, I still get giddy and smile when the main characters get together their banter is still unmatched; their passion and attraction is so hot... Season 5 has it's moments and Bruce really did a fine job with all they were going through and I think Cybill did too. It's no different than the viewers who have issues on their jobs, sometimes we all loose focus of what is important...getting the job done and making the money. Only my opinion though Love to all.... SinceIfell4U
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 2, 2009 10:17:09 GMT -5
Hey, welcome to the asylum sinceifell4u.
This is a great forum and a super companion to the website. As much as I "thought" I knew about this show, I have found out so much, much more by lurking and posting here.
Again, welcome aboard.
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Post by bluemoonshampoo on Dec 27, 2010 14:22:03 GMT -5
Hang your horses! Now I'm a little confused...so if Perfetc was last episode - was the Annie arc just added on to bring it to a conclusion, or was it supposed to be before Perfetc? :-o
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Post by moonlightinglover on Jan 9, 2011 2:43:26 GMT -5
Your words ring so true italianbluemooner, just reading those words brings tears to my eyes. I always felt that the essence of Moonlighting had gone by season 5 , like most people i would have watch paint dry if it was David and Maddie doing the painting! but i will admit it was painfull to watch these so called writers from season 5 slowly suffocating our beloved show to death. I still watch some of season 5 eps but i have to skip the scenes that i still can`t bare to watch even after all these years and i hav`nt watch Luner for years.Like most of us i choose to remember them from season 3 and that historic scene of them inlove and in bed for the first time gazing into each others eyes.... Ahhh so sweet so tender. To me...this is where it ends! Season 3...
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