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Post by jpen on Jan 6, 2009 22:07:53 GMT -5
2. Why do you think Maddie hasn't told her parents about Walter, like David guessed? Maddie was NEVER spontaneous, and that's a good thing, because she STINKS at it. When she tries anyting unplanned...a date on the town....a joke about a duck....a marriage....it goes completely awry. Oh, graycav, I'm so glad you made it to the party...you're hilarious AND perceptive...a deadly combination!! ;D
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Post by italianbluemooner on Jan 6, 2009 22:10:54 GMT -5
[quote By golly YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!!! ;D GIMME A HIGH FIVE!! ;D8-) ;D SMACK *FIVE* ;D You know I really never even considered the alternative - Maddie going through with it... but I never really considered him cruel for throwing the wedding... conniving and crafty maybe, but never cruel. [/quote] Yep, I think the same thing! Dave's is not capable of being cruel. He's a sweet, caring, warm man. He was hurt. That's all. I can't tell you how bad I feel when I watch the scene at Terri's when he can't eat...Too lovesick to eat... Or when he liftes his dizzy, heavy head up that small table at the bachelor party... I feel a hole in my belly every single time I watch these scenes...
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 6, 2009 22:11:28 GMT -5
Bees,
I wouldn't have called Mr and Mrs Hayes. I don't think that would be the mature thing to do. He already knows that Maddie has deliberately kept them in the dark about the wedding, and regardless of the reasons, he would not be the one to spill THOSE beans.
I would figure he would keep up the pressure on Maddie to make that call. He would respect Mr. and Mrs. Hayes enough to allow that bombshell to come from their daughter.
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 6, 2009 22:14:46 GMT -5
IBM Said: Dave's is not capable of being cruel. He's a sweet, caring, warm man. He was hurt. That's all.
Sorry Missy, but I totally disagree with you here. Dave can be just as cruel as the next person. This is a Philly kid...he eats cruel for a midnight snack. You don't survive 6th and Girard being all sweetness and light.
I DO agree that he wasn't being cruel in this particular instance, but behind the Ray Bans and limbo contests lurks a guy who could be a real handful, if the occasion called.
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Post by beesnbears on Jan 6, 2009 22:16:27 GMT -5
Bees, I wouldn't have called Mr and Mrs Hayes. I don't think that would be the mature thing to do. He already knows that Maddie has deliberately kept them in the dark about the wedding, and regardless of the reasons, he would not be the one to spill THOSE beans. I would figure he would keep up the pressure on Maddie to make that call. He would respect Mr. and Mrs. Hayes enough to allow that bombshell to come from their daughter. LOL!! That's what I thought you would say!! Agree with jpen.....you are fun to have around here!! "Maddie STINKS at spontaneity"----- ;D ;D
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Post by gorky on Jan 6, 2009 22:20:33 GMT -5
Absolutely--he could be a real jerk, when he wanted to be. But I don't think he's a malicious guy by any means. Like most people, he's prone to being cruel when he's hurt. I don't think it's a coincidence that most of Dave's Major Moments of Cruelty were directed towards Maddie (I'm thinking specifically of his blow-up at her at the church in "All Creatures Great And...Not So Great"); I'd feed you that line about always hurting the one you love, but I think that belongs in a pop song or something.
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 6, 2009 22:21:49 GMT -5
JPEN: You have just given me a new line to put on my profile! Many thanks!
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Post by MoonBeemer on Jan 6, 2009 22:23:26 GMT -5
4. Why do you think Walter married Maddie? For one he just met her and he knew of all her baggage , such as David and the baby. He was a decent man, saw a lady in distress and did the thing he thought was right. When it all blows up at the end , do you feel bad for him or feel like he should have known this would happen? He knew, I mean come on…Walter Bishop snagging the Blue Moon Girl? Not in a BILLION years. He had less of a chance than yours truly. Indeed! There was a definite Revenge of the Nerds vibe to that whole union.
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Post by beesnbears on Jan 6, 2009 22:24:20 GMT -5
IBM Said: Dave's is not capable of being cruel. He's a sweet, caring, warm man. He was hurt. That's all. Sorry Missy, but I totally disagree with you here. Dave can be just as cruel as the next person. This is a Philly kid...he eats cruel for a midnight snack. You don't survive 6th and Girard being all sweetness and light. I DO agree that he wasn't being cruel in this particular instance, but behind the Ray Bans and limbo contests lurks a guy who could be a real handful, if the occasion called. I disagree too, ibm....sorry!! Look at Season 5 about around WGC......
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Post by jpen on Jan 6, 2009 22:26:44 GMT -5
4. Why did Walter marry Maddie? She was a damsel in distress and he wanted to be her knight in shining armor. When Walter asked her if she wanted to gamble, I guess in hindsight, we could read different meanings into that question. I got the feeling that Walter suggested getting married on a whim, probably never thinking that Maddie would accept. I think he just wanted to make this sad, beautiful woman smile. Wonderfully put, lin, and right on the money, IMO...Walter probably never got to play the "savior" role before, so it was doubly attractive...
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Post by jpen on Jan 6, 2009 22:30:37 GMT -5
JPEN: You have just given me a new line to put on my profile! Many thanks! Aw, shucks, gray...glad to be of service.
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Post by graycav56 on Jan 6, 2009 22:31:17 GMT -5
I've been sitting here thinking of all the fantastically beautiful women who have hooked up with less than handsome men. You RARELY see the opposite.
I mean, there is Shania Twain and Mutt Lange...Ronnie and Phil Spector...Carmen Electra and Dennis Rodman....(Insert great looking girl here) and just about ANY rock star.
Not a lot of "Sexiest Men Alive" go plain. Tom Brady types go for supermodels and such.
Interesting difference in our genders.
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Post by italianbluemooner on Jan 6, 2009 22:31:19 GMT -5
IBM Said: Dave's is not capable of being cruel. He's a sweet, caring, warm man. He was hurt. That's all. Sorry Missy, but I totally disagree with you here. Dave can be just as cruel as the next person. This is a Philly kid...he eats cruel for a midnight snack. You don't survive 6th and Girard being all sweetness and light. I DO agree that he wasn't being cruel in this particular instance, but behind the Ray Bans and limbo contests lurks a guy who could be a real handful, if the occasion called. OUCH! OK, you're right. BTW, wait for the upcoming post!
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Post by italianbluemooner on Jan 6, 2009 22:39:12 GMT -5
Maddie was NEVER spontaneous, and that's a good thing, because she STINKS at it. When she tries anyting unplanned...a date on the town....a joke about a duck....a marriage....it goes completely awry. graycavROFL! You're the best!! -------------------------------------------- He had less of a chance than yours truly. graycavYou're underestimating yourself, bro! ----------------------------------------------------- Dave was the catalyst to finally get Maddie to stop acting like a spoiled kid and face reality. graycavExactly!!!! Dave knows how to live, he had to roll with the punches in life! And he did it GREAT. He's become quite (hey, nobody's perfect! ) a good person, after all. Maddie grew up in a safe environment, protected from the real stuff, which, IMO, is 90% c*ap and 10% cheer up! Get real, Maddie! The world's not what you want it to be, girl!
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Post by beesnbears on Jan 6, 2009 22:39:22 GMT -5
"Not a lot of "Sexiest Men Alive" go plain. Tom Brady types go for supermodels and such.
Interesting difference in our genders." graycav
That is very interesting. I have never thought about this in regards to this episode.
Way to go jpen!!!! Gray has a new sig!!! ;D
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