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Feb 10, 2021 18:34:11 GMT -5
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Post by essed on Feb 10, 2021 18:34:11 GMT -5
How about a small break from the character assassination, err, I mean analyzation đ...
Also in desperate need for a positivity fix, I began spiraling down the rabbit hole of fan videos and favorite scenes. Completely mesmerized by the trunk scene again for the millionth time in my life, I looked down at myself and laughed. I am wearing a black t-shirt and gray sweatpants, my accidental unconscious nod to David Addisonâs bedtime attire.
I think a huge portion of my personality was informed by Moonlighting. I was 10 years old when I was indoctrinated into this cult created by Glenn Gordon Caron. Moonlighting ingrained itself during my adolescence and has endured into middle age.
So for fun tell me how Moonlighting has affected your life, in any way, big or small. The fashion, the music, the heartache. Gimme anything great-great or not so great. Here are some of mine...
My first tattoo - was a sun and moon. It has since been covered, but I like knowing it is still under my skin, much like Moonlighting itself.
Slippers - Obviously, the garage kiss in WftE was the best part of the ep, but it is the direction of Mr. Everettâs slippers that I remember every night as I slip into bed. Also, shout out to Mr. Everett who lived during the 1918 pandemic. This horrible pandemic is what brought me back to Moonlighting.
Atheism - Maddie was the first time I saw myself represented. Someone shared my (dis)beliefs but wasnât portrayed as a terrible person. For a kid growing up in the Bible Belt during the satanic panic of the 1980âs, this was a ground breaking revelation.
Kamikaze - was the first drink I ordered when I came of legal age, I wasnât even sure if it was a real drink. But it was, and is, quite tasty!
Manic Depression - Jimi Hendrix has been in constant rotation my entire life, my mom met him when she was 15 years old! However, it is Davidâs anger and hurt that I connect with when I hear that song. It is perfect when you need to rage against the world. Hmm, maybe Iâll play it today? Ha!
Pregnancy loss - WWAV is a controversial episode, but it provided me comfort during times when I felt most alone. Pregnancy loss happens, sometimes repeatedly, without reason or fault, but it is still a taboo subject. It may seem silly to some, but having Baby Hayes diaper in my home is truly meaningful to me in a way that I canât express.
Water cooler roulette - I hear âThe Good, the Bad and the Uglyâ theme every time I encounter a water cooler in the wild. I disdainfully whisper MacGuillicuddy if it bubbles.
So either tell me Iâm completely bonkers or tell me about the time you âborrowedâ (without asking) your auntâs pink silk jacket with enormous shoulder pads because it looked Maddie-esque.
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Post by marta on Feb 10, 2021 19:31:38 GMT -5
On Mr Hayes I need to hear the scene again several times, and well ... if you are right then D fibs even more than I thought. It does not change a lot because M's answer is in no doubt.
On my transcription error Yes! It is an error. 'But wait! Isnât she saying: 'I can imagine not seeing you tomorrow...â thatâs something isnât it?! (Breaks my heart, actually)'. Unless it is 'can't' the whole sentence and the sentiment I expressed do not make sense.
On all what is uncomfortable being writers fault Here we go again...
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Feb 10, 2021 19:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by Marlena on Feb 10, 2021 19:38:40 GMT -5
Boink and Marta, I have the script for FKL, so I pulled it out to see what David says in that scene as written, but unfortunately those pages are missing. Just FYI, the title that is on the script I have is "Is That A Shotgun In Your Pants Or Are You Happy To See Me?". It must be an early version because quite a bit of the dialogue was changed.
I too believe that David says in that scene that he asked Maddie to marry him. My take on it is that he most likely asked her in a moment of passion, or while bantering in the car. I could see her thinking he wasn't serious and either not acknowledging it, or just kind of blowing it off with a quick "no, I'm not marrying you." I doubt it was a serious proposal with a ring in hand.
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Post by marta on Feb 10, 2021 19:46:48 GMT -5
Thank you! Sorted.
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Feb 11, 2021 0:38:15 GMT -5
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Post by notjuanjones on Feb 11, 2021 0:38:15 GMT -5
Essed, I thought about it, and while nothing substantial comes to mind when it comes to ML carryover, I do âborrowâ Davidâs Three Stooges/Curly verbal tic if Iâm suddenly faced with an immediate problem (e.g., I have to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting the car in front of me).
I love Al Jarreau, but that was before ML.The theme was just icing on the cake.
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Post by sandra on Feb 11, 2021 6:13:13 GMT -5
Thank you for being so open about how Moonlighting affected your life, Anna. As stated, we all look at the show from our own frame of reference. So while we're being open about things, here's my story. Moonlighting didn't change my life so much back then; sure, David Addison was like my first crush ever, but other than that I can't think of anything. I was born in the early eighties, so I didn't take any fashion statements or anything from that time. I was already heavily into the nineties fashion when I first discovered the show, but undoubtedly, that type of fashion isn't much better, lol.
I would have to say that Moonlighting is changing my life NOW. You see, I'm dealing with a severe case of PTSD and anxiety here. Something happened to me when I was 14, two years after I discovered the show. Perhaps that's why I regressed back to a time when the world was still innocent and pure in my book. I was just a child back then, and then the world suddenly turned evil. I thought I had dealt with it over the years, but then the pandemic happened. Riots happened. The world was turning evil yet again. I found myself in hospital rooms (because of my work) where everyone was dying every five minutes and out of nowhere, my past came back to bite me in the behind. I never saw it coming. There I was, suddenly having nightmares about things that happened ages ago and I collapsed in the middle of a covid ward.
Maybe this is the whole reason why I turned David Addison into some type of hero. The way he looks at things can actually make me feel better. He makes Maddie feel safe when she's scared in the pilot episode, right after those thugs had threatened them in the supposed safety of her kitchen. He makes her laugh when she's down. Last week, I found myself watching 'Knowing her,' purely for the opening scene. Remember when Maddie's car broke down in the rain and nobody helped her? That's almost exactly what happened to me last week. My car broke down in the middle of the road, creating a traffic jam behind me. The car wouldn't budge, no matter what I tried. Instead of people getting out of their car and helping me push the vehicle to the side of the road, I got angry and impatient looks. I had to call my husband to bail me out and I was so sad over that type of behavior. So I turned on 'Knowing her' and watched David cheer Maddie up.
"What about the movement, Maddie?!" Yeah sure, he was being a sexist and chauvinistic, but I felt better. For me, it worked. His positivity is an example to me, even if it sometimes is just a facade with him. In that department, I look like him. I smile, I tell people I'm alright and I hide behind a sense of humor. So yeah, Moonlighting is changing my life in the way that it's helping me cope.
Not the most positive note of the bunch here. But that's my story and that's why I'm here. It's also why I write and just maybe it's also the whole reason why with Moonlighting, I need that happy ending. Sorry, Marta. My apologies if I came on a bit too strong in my previous posts because of this.
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Post by sandra on Feb 12, 2021 1:59:14 GMT -5
Something else entirely. Since you love Al Jarreau, notjuanjones, did you know that GGC debated on using 'After all' as the theme song to Moonlighting? I just read that on The Moonlighting Book's page on Facebook. Interesting, isn't it?
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Post by marta on Feb 12, 2021 5:27:58 GMT -5
Iâve just watched a few interviews with CS and (separately!) BW on Utube. A big mistake, of course. Have to cleanse my brain before I post anything else. A big news scoop about âAfter allâ - the plot thickens!
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Post by marta on Feb 12, 2021 7:11:43 GMT -5
Well, we had a little glimpse into private worlds a few posts above... These are not the best of times, that is for sure. Things are improving though, I hope; they already have in some ways, havenât they?
Hi Sandra, donât think twice about upsetting me because you cannot, I am a rhinoceros. I wasnât sure whether you question was sarcastic or not, thatâs all. Anyway, my views are all there and in writing too! It is always better to make sure rather than leave things unclear â I love David to bits and want the best for him. If he does not get it, it is not my doing! (Those dastardly writers again! Hello Boink).
I am such a newbie to ML that I am quite amazed, Essed, at how rich with ML your journey through life is. I do remember liking ML a lot when it first screened but I can recollect clearly only the theme music, which I loved â and naturally still do (hello NJJ) - opening credits and several scenes, the chief being the kiss in KH. I remember being disappointed when the repeats started popping up all the time. I was not in a place in my life where ML could have an effect on me that it deserved, sadly, then. I do remember that I liked the music in the show a lot, both the score and soundtrack. It has made an impression on me that you, Essed, like Jimi Hendrix. His music has provided a soundtrack to my own life, with Led Zeppelin. I am listening to Voodoo Child as I write this. Watching ML again for the first time after all those years in October last year truly astonished me. I just cannot get over how good it is. I am a bit jealous that you guys had refreshers over the years while I was living in ignorance!
I listened to AJâs âAfter allâ several times and I am glad GGC decided to go with âMoonlightingâ.
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Post by sandra on Feb 12, 2021 8:47:36 GMT -5
Hey Marta, good to hear that you're a rhinoceros. Haha! I just wanted to make sure, because as everyone may have noticed by now; I tend to get defensive when it comes to David *hides* But hey, we can all have different views without discrediting the other. That's the good thing about this board. And yes... oops! I missed a few things here and there; your views are clear. I just need to learn how to read. Hahaha!
I'm glad that GGC didn't go with 'After all' as well. When I hear the first notes to 'Moonlighting,' I get chills.
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Post by notjuanjones on Feb 12, 2021 18:26:19 GMT -5
Hey Marta, good to hear that you're a rhinoceros. Haha! I just wanted to make sure, because as everyone may have noticed by now; I tend to get defensive when it comes to David *hides* But hey, we can all have different views without discrediting the other. That's the good thing about this board. And yes... oops! I missed a few things here and there; your views are clear. I just need to learn how to read. Hahaha! I'm glad that GGC didn't go with 'After all' as well. When I hear the first notes to 'Moonlighting,' I get chills. Yes, the first few notes do put a smile on my face. Every time. As for David, I suspect you feel about him the way I feel about Maddie: if you come at the king/queen, you better not miss!! :-) They are flawed and vain and occasionally impossible, but we love them, for reasons emotional and, uh, otherwise. ;-)
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Post by Boink on Feb 12, 2021 18:47:43 GMT -5
I love David to bits and want the best for him. If he does not get it, it is not my doing! (Those dastardly writers again! Hello Boink). Marta, I realize that blaming the writers for anything I feel they got "wrong" is a copout, but I will also praise them to the moon for everything I feel they got "right." Plus, Moonlighting's "fourth wall" breaking and production history make it all too ripe for discussion of the off-screen affecting the on-screen. I am actually somewhat envious of you for having five seasons to enjoy, while I have only three (with BTTF replacing THH). Respectfully, Boink
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Post by essed on Feb 13, 2021 1:38:17 GMT -5
Marta, I apologize for stealing inspiration from your post without giving you proper credit! I should have thanked you for sharing the Remington Steele lady and your young friendâs perspective when I posted my silly blurt about the affect Moonlighting has had on me. If you havenât guessed yet, I was an only child, latch key kid, with no friends that developed a parasocial interaction with the show. Regarding Detective Donniganâs name, I truly didnât remember, I concede all things during the Annie arc because I refuse to re-watch those episodes. Immature I know, but Iâve made peace with my petty inclinations. Thank you for sharing in the Jimi Hendrix love, I heard Little Wing today, he was so great. My mom also met Led Zeppelin as a teen, she was a bit of a groupie. Those are stories for a different kind of board though! Lol! Now, where is that DiPesto post?!!
Marlena, I was a bit down this week, too. I will gladly post unicorns and thighs if it helps board morale. Iâm selfless like that, ha! Maybe I can interest you in a strategically placed sheet or a low slung towel? Also, I recommend fanfic author ATTHS for healing X-Files revival trauma, I feel your pain.
NotJuanJones, I loved your Three Stooges reference, thank you! I especially delighted in the rare times when Maddie made those silly sounds. Though my favorite Stooges call back was during the BoB jail scene, âNiagra Falls!â Also, your comment to Sandra âfor reasons emotional and, uh, otherwiseâ was so funny!
Sandra, thank you for sharing your story with us, it was heartbreaking and so very relatable. I hope easier days are ahead for you, my friend. I think I share the same affinity for David for a similar reason. The positivity. David touches something within me, not in that way, dirty mind! Ha! Revisiting âToday Has Been Okayâ helped me immensely this week, thank you!
Boink, I have nothing to add except it is always a treat when you post!
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Post by sandra on Feb 13, 2021 3:16:14 GMT -5
As for David, I suspect you feel about him the way I feel about Maddie: if you come at the king/queen, you better not miss!! :-) They are flawed and vain and occasionally impossible, but we love them, for reasons emotional and, uh, otherwise. ;-) I hear ya, NJJ... I hear ya I wouldn't mind those shots of strategically placed sheets or low slung towels, Anna. But I'm afraid we'd get kicked off the board! Hahahaha! Side note: I suck at this quoting thing, but you catch my drift
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Post by marta on Feb 13, 2021 9:35:49 GMT -5
Agnes as a Greek chorus⌠slowly I turnâŚ
On the future posts
I have several topics I HAVE to deal with (off-load or download?) to find out what you think. They are: 2 strong pet peeves (of sexual nature), what is going on in TWJ including two issues I said I would return to (and I will) and DiPestoâs issue. All in good time!
On what Essed said re acknowledgement
There is a traditional song at the root of every blues, isnât it? I will not give any acknowledgements! We all influence each other.
On Sandraâs alleged sucking at quoting thing
I am very glad that you are rather not quoting. Except when an exact phrasing is important (pointing errors, for example, hello Boink) there is no need to quote, we can all scroll back if needed. Quoting, especially this tedious quoting of the whole long posts when one is referring to only a few sentences in them, makes reading past posts under episodes such a nightmare. I am sure I am missing a lot of insightful posts but I just cannot bear all this lazy quoting there. Some are quite Russian dolls constructions. I suppose when they were meeting once every few months it was necessary⌠possibly.
On Boinkâs seasonsâ envy
Dear Boink, You know it and I know it: people who accept reality have more fun. I hope you also do know that I am one of those teasing rhinoceroses.
On Boinkâs suggestion to discuss the off-screen affecting the on-screen
Below is my first (and quite possibly my last) stab at a list of the off-screen affecting the on-screen in terms of the fourth wall breaking and production history: (in no particular order)
The whole TSP episode;
The actors being called B and C (the only time in ML, I think) and made to apologise for the episode being too short at the start of BCYSAB;
A critic and a clip show of the previous episode (BOB) start the episode in SAD;
A clip show and street stops with viewers start the show in MTTC (the gap was not that long, only a month);
Handling of the opening title song after being moved to Sunday timeslot in TLTL;
Maddie joining late the musical number welcoming of the audience performed by the cast and crew in AWWAV.
The following are not directly about production problems, but acknowledgements of the show and actors presence in the media and wider world AFTER the ML started:
âItâs in the bagâ beginning of the episode after the Emmy Awards 1986 fiasco (TSAR);
M and D are responding to letters asking for them to kiss in EDFIAV
The nation is waiting for an important episode shown via archival clips in (cannot find it now)
Maddie being accused of not being generous and actually being stingy in TMWFE;
Bloopers depicting a very cordial relationship between CS and BW at the end of PFL (contradicting press reports. It may belong in the list above...);
David: ââŚand the press says I have a big ego.â (I cannot find where it was said);
David: â...they didnât have David Addison to kick around anymore...â (in Perfetc; I am not sure I understand this one properly);
Demi Moore's cameo, Die hard poster, David: âI am such a sexy manâ, all in WGC;
Donniganâs watch in EKNM (Die hard reference, possibly);
David: I am going to make a video (A Return of Bruno?) at the start of SIKF.
I am sure there is more but I have to go to bed now. I will sleep tight and won't let the bedbugs bite (was it said in ML or am I hallucinating?).
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