Hi, callmeditzy, I had totally the same feelings with you, about 6 months ago when I re-watched it. Itfs so cruel to the fans who really love D&M, and I think itfs too hard to say about anything of the scene. Also Ifve never watched the last episodes since the other day, except the better parts on YouTube site.
About the big question you mentioned that Davidfs motivation, that I was confused and distressed, too. In fact, Ifve tried to figure it out desperately for long, because it seems that this is the key to solve the whole unbelievable, disgusting story. But Ifm not sure even nowc I think one thing clear is that writing was totally failure.
DDfs speech made me angry too. But when he said gromance is fragile thing, once itfs over, itfs overh, I thought it never fitted D&Mfs romance. It sounded like kind of a sophistry to me in order to hurry up and end the show. I believe D&Mfs romance has never been fragile. In fact each of them tried to escape from the other several times in history, but eventually they came back. I think D&Mfs romance is very special as well as their own characters. They are so highly original characters with their wonderful chemistry. D&M always look great together even in S5. I think thatfs why Moonlighting has attracted us so long. I decided I ignored Lunar Eclipse, I want to think it never happened.
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Post by beesnbears on Sept 17, 2008 14:47:40 GMT -5
I know how you feel and so do a lot of other people. But, I will say this. I was like you at the end of S5 and swore I would never watch those Annie ones again. However, I have found that watching them again I have been able to re-evaluate certain things. Namely, the fact that the feelings between David and Maddie were still there as evident by the way Cybill and Bruce plowed through the last 4-5 episodes and maintained somewhat of a relationship. It wasn't what we wanted, but the writing staff had changed by then and people were jumping off the sinking ship.
Still really stinks, I know, but I like to think they ran out of time and D and M ended up together somewhere down the road. That is my coping mechanism!!
Now, you go read some Virtual Moonlighting and some Blue Moon Fanfic!!!
Post by maddieaddisonjr on Sept 17, 2008 22:50:25 GMT -5
I don't mind sounding like a broken record because I still feel the same way and someone else has joined the conversation. To Ditzy and everyone else, I'm chalking it up to lazy, careless and therefore horrible writing. The writers just didn't care - about the characters nor about the consistency of characterization and storytelling. Nor did those who were in charge of approving these scripts care either. Did any of them bother to watch or rewatch the show from the beginning so that they could make sure to fulfill the unwritten promise that these two people would end up happily together - I mean, really together - and we would see it clearly like David's 'moonlighting' date with Annie in "When Girls Collide" and David's pillow talk scene with Annie at the very beginning of the series finale. Those kinds of scenes were supposed to be shared by David and Maddie (only!) by the end of this show. And there is no reason in the whole wide blue moon that such scenes could not have been written into the final episode! I don't care if it would have seemed rushed at that point. The fifth season hardly made any sense anyway so it wouldn't have mattered. The way these people were allowed to utterly savage the series finale of this groundbreaking show - a show that once commanded 60 million viewers (if I'm not mistaken) - is mindboggling to this very day if I dwell on it for more than a few seconds.
And y' know...nobody bothered to even try to make it right with a 2-hour reunion episode within five years after cancellation - which they could have done.
I just don't know what else to say except that the fans should have sued the pants off the studio and the writers. (Well in a fair and just world this would be reasonable and legal!)
Just wanted to say i enjoyed the new posts here You guys all said the right things about this episode. Its the same across the board i think for just about every ML fans on how angry and upset and disaappointed we are still to this day. Hmmm wonder if the writers ever come here Its sad a reunion was never done, and if it was done it should have been done awhile ago, but one of the main reasons was Bruce Willis's carreer just took off like gang busters after the show ended and hasnt really slowed down . I agree David/A***es' scnes of fun and stuff should havr been meant for maddie, we didnt get alot of that stuff with them, i guess thats what upsets me too. I wanted more romance, and fighting and making up again. I dont watch these episodes much at all but i guess when i do i know why, i love to be tortured by it for some reason LOL
Post by bluemooner on Sept 20, 2008 8:54:25 GMT -5
It really is! And, I do the same thing. Every now and then, I say to myself, okay, I'm in the mood to watch season 5. I never smile either, I'm just like, UGH!, I think I'm gonna watch S5. I prepare myself to be annoyed and tortured. yet, for some reason, I am actually up for the experience, every once in a while. HA!
Yeah me too, it's like going to the dentist, aghhh I have to watch season 4! especially A trip to the moon, omg it's so painful to watch, seriously, I bet god's gonna be repeating it for me forever on the huge plasma screens in hell if I go there lol
My thoughts on Lunar Eclipse and the ending of the show are complex. Because I hated the ending so much I prefer to think the show ended with Womb With A View. The reason for this is simple: that was the last episode Glenn was involved in. After that episode, it was up to writers and producers who did not create the characters to create an ending for them. The writers did not follow the shows progression at all in season 5 and so much of it was contradictory.
I have read many interviews with Glenn that gives me hope as to how he wanted Maddie and David to end up. In 2009, he said he is not sure how a movie would work since those 2 would probably end up "married with 2 kids and a dog". He also said in 1988 that "I am not sure if they will marry or not but these 2 will still be important to each other when they are 80". I could have never seen another episode after WWAV since there was still a lot of hope that these 2 would end up together. Yes, Glenn gave us some heartache but he would have wrapped the series up happily. Those 2 were his babies and he has stated that several times.
So gather the kids, the dog, Grandma... and lock them in another room
I am not sure if they will marry or not but these 2 will still be important to each other when they are 80"
yeah, that is the way I always imagined them to be and I still do) I watched the last episode only once, it was enough for me... I really hate the way it was made.. There could be thousands of possible endings, but this one is the most heartless, unfeeling, the most cruel ending for Maddie and David. They didn't deserve it, and we didn't deserve it either... For me "Womb With A View" is a perfect beginning of something wonderfull, that could be so perfectly great developed by the creators in the following episodes...But it never happened! I hate, hate, hate the ending!
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David: you look awful... Maddie: yeah..well...and you smell awful!
"This is just some weird unfunny dream sequence." I choose to believe David's words here. This cannot be how things end for David and Maddie. I can't believe I went through the whole series season 5 and all. Usually I stop at season 3. I don't know what to say about this that hasn't already been said. After all these years this ending still bothers me so much. What a huge let down. So glad there is virtual ML and some great fanfiction out there. And the first 3 seasons to watch over and over.
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