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Post by fanofmoonlighting on Jun 14, 2021 11:13:41 GMT -5
Thank you so much for finding these! I'll have to watch them later.
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Post by fanofmoonlighting on Jun 15, 2021 11:12:39 GMT -5
ilovewillis, what is the note you referred to in a previous post that Bruce wrote to Cybill? Was that in the book? I think I am missing something important here!
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Post by Marlena on Jun 15, 2021 15:41:45 GMT -5
Quest, I hope the links above work, but if not, you can scroll down to ilovewilliscirca88's original post from yesterday.
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Post by Marlena on Jun 15, 2021 15:46:56 GMT -5
In the It's a Wrap video, you can see CS at about 34:25 and BW at about 39:30.
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Post by ilovewilliscirca88 on Jun 15, 2021 21:49:59 GMT -5
ilovewillis, what is the note you referred to in a previous post that Bruce wrote to Cybill? Was that in the book? I think I am missing something important here! Ah, I was talking about the note he put on his headshot he gave to her "To my first, best and most beautiful leading lady..." so cute!
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Post by Marlena on Jul 8, 2021 12:18:48 GMT -5
I was thinking that it's interesting that none of the actors who portrayed the Blue Moon office employees were interviewed in the Moonlighting book. Where did these people end up? Anybody see them in anything since Moonlighting? I wonder if they were contacted by Scott Ryan and then turned him down. Can you imagine the behind-the-scenes stories these people would have to tell? If only they would. Maybe they are sworn to secrecy.
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Post by northernlight on Jul 8, 2021 15:32:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't have known about the book if I hadn't been dropping by here since last October (I was looking for a Moonlighting forum and I definitely struck gold here), but I ordered my copy this morning and it's due to arrive tomorrow. Guess what I'll be doing this weekend... So, thank you very much, Moonlighting Fans Forum.
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Post by Marlena on Jul 8, 2021 16:07:40 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, northernlight! So nice to meet other Moonlighting fans, isn't it? You'll really enjoy reading the ML book this weekend. It's a wonderful book. Knowing what went on behind-the-scenes will definitely give you a new appreciation for the show. I'm amazed when I think about it. This was such an incredibly talented group of people that came together to make this show. I'm sure we'll all be interested in hearing your thoughts on the book once you're done reading.
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Post by fanofmoonlighting on Jul 8, 2021 20:36:57 GMT -5
Marlena, I though the same thing. I wonder why they weren't in the book?
And I just watched the It's a Wrap video. I liked it. It was interesting to see all the people that were involved in making the show. Everyone was joking around and seemed like they had fun even though it was hard work. I wish Bruce and Cybill were in it a little more and that they showed more about how they made the last episode. But it was still pretty interesting to me.
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Post by northernlight on Jul 9, 2021 6:55:40 GMT -5
Hi Marlena.
Great to be with you all on this wonderful site. I'm currently at work - a freewheeling sort of place, which is why I can go online quite a bit - but the book arrived today (Amazon have sent me a confirmation email), so I'm looking forward to getting home and spending the evening getting lost in it. You're right, it was an amazing cast and an amazing show, something that could never be replicated. There was a show in the UK a few years ago, which I cannot remember the name of, but somebody told me that the creator was a ML fan and tried to emulate it, but it was doomed, really. There could never be another Moonlighting. I like to think there was a lot of respect and affection among the team and that it was just the unpleasant stuff that made the headlines. Anyway, I'll come back when I've read it. Thanks, Marlena.
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Post by Marlena on Jul 11, 2021 10:38:05 GMT -5
I was thinking about the Moonlighting book this morning, and I kept thinking about this one part. I don't remember who exactly talked about it, but it had to do with a scripted and cast scene in TDSART.
Can you believe that Glenn was actually going to show David in bed with another woman?
I mean, this would've come after "jealous David" in TNMYH and BCYSAB, "I'm glad you're my partner, cheek-kissed David" in TLITIM, and "flirty, protective, fly to South America David" in MTMW.
By the time we get to TDSART, David is well on his way to falling head over heels in love with Maddie.
What do you all think? Was David that casual about sex that he would've slept with another woman while he's clearly got feelings for Maddie. I for one, am glad they didn't go through with filming that scene. It would likely have changed my opinion about who David was at that point.
What was Glenn thinking here?
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Post by northernlight on Jul 11, 2021 14:25:57 GMT -5
I've read it. Got through it on Friday night, the day it arrived. Apparently, the DVD's are no longer available due to the music rights, so only those of us with the DVD's can see Moonlighting now. Thank goodness I bought mine. I think Cybill gets a bit of a raw deal in it, when you consider that "one of the actors" refused to say the affectionate dialogue in the final scene of Lunar Eclipse and we know who it is, as Maddie is the only one who speaks. They refuse to name him, yet I get the feeling that if Cybill had refused to do it, they would have named her, as they do lay a fair bit at her door in proportion to BW. Much is made of BW's professionalism in the book, but refusing to speak written dialogue in character is very unprofessional in my view. Also, you can't really take anything as definitive, because only last week, I watched a YouTube clip of Dana Delaney talking about her appearance in the show and she said that she never saw any tension between CS and BW ("I just didn't see it"), yet in the book, she says the complete opposite, so... But it's a good read and well worth buying for all ML fans. The only drawback really is the absence of BW, and that's a massive hole to leave in the project. You can feel his absence all the way through the book. I mean, surely he could have found the time during lockdown?
With the music rights, I don't know if it's different here in the UK, because Happy Days region 2 DVD's have the music intact, whereas the US ones don't. To anyone familiar with these shows as originally aired, it is not a good thing to change the music. I only have the first two seasons of Cybill and the 'Nice Work if You Can Get It' theme is intact, but I've heard that in the US, there are only compilation DVD's, where even the theme music has been changed. It might be a small detail, but it takes all the familiarity away, doesn't it? I have the entire set of M*A*S*H, but I don't know if they would be sold today because of these rights.
Anyway, enjoy the book everybody. Take it from me, you will.
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Post by fanofmoonlighting on Jul 11, 2021 23:31:19 GMT -5
Marlena, I thought the same thing. It would have been really bad if they had shown David in bed with another woman. I hated when he slept with another woman in Season 4 TITC. I'm so glad they changed that part of the episode!
Northernlight, I agree that Cybill was not portrayed well in the book. Maybe there is a reason for that, but I have a hard time believing she was that bad. The story about the guy stepping in her salad and then everyone laughing about it was terrible. And I also noticed how Bruce seemed to be perfect and he wasn't even named as the one who wouldn't say his lines. I wonder if maybe he was favored on the show from the beginning and Cybill felt left out and that she was treated unfairly, so she lashed out because of that. Did you see the episode of Cybill that seems to be about her time on Moonlighting (at least part of it is)?
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Post by northernlight on Jul 12, 2021 12:29:55 GMT -5
Marlena, about David being in bed with another woman in 'Dream Sequence'... I'm glad they didn't go through with that too, but it's possible that he might have been. Maddie wasn't really "his" yet and he probably thought she was out of his league at that point. We never knew how much of David's talk was just bravado. But you're right, it would have been a wrong move to put him in bed with another woman as it would have knocked the bottom out of all that they were trying to build up at that time. It might have looked a bit sleazy too.
fanofmoonlighting, yes, that whole stepping in the salad thing is pretty disgusting, and to talk about it all these years later as though it were something to be proud of is equally disgusting. There are a few things like that in the book and it does give the impression that Cybill was marginalized to say the least, and that can affect your general behavior. I don't doubt that she had her moments, but I'm sure Bruce did too. I can remember him getting a fair bit of bad publicity in the early-to-middle period of the show. That thing about BW and GGC being "tight" and BW being petulant when GGC was no longer around, and GGC expressing surprise that Jay Daniel appeared to befriend CS rather than BW is also quite revealing. If BW isn't being favoured, it's a bad thing; if CS isn't being favoured, she's just out to make trouble. I'm no male feminist, but it does sound like Cybill was right when she said that she'd been the victim of a sexist boys' club. I'm amazed at how charitable she is, really. If BW had received more criticism in the book and less fan worship, I might have been more inclined to believe the vitriol that CS gets, but I now firmly believe that what she wrote in her autobiography all those years ago was correct.
The episode of 'Cybill'... I'm not sure. I'll have to dig them out. Funnily enough, after my last Moonlighting binge a few months ago, I began watching Cybill, but my 15-year-old DVD player packed up in the middle of the first episode and I haven't replaced it yet. I do watch DVD's on the laptop, but it's not really the same. But Jay Daniel was involved in that and also, Curtis Armstrong and Jack Blessing did a joint cameo - would they have done that if CS was such a virago? Also, I hear that Charles Rocket put in an appearance too, later on. We'll never know - like I said about Dana Delaney's contradictory comments... I'll have a look for that episode, though, and get back to you on that.
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Post by fanofmoonlighting on Jul 12, 2021 22:37:31 GMT -5
Northernlight the Cybill episode is called Going to hell in a limo and its in season 3. I don't have the dvd's but the show is on some streaming sites and it might be on YouTube but I haven't checked. Charles Rocket was in the show too, but I haven't gotten to that episode yet. I'm looking forward to it. I think he plays a character named Charlie Addison!
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