goldilocks
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 16, 2011 14:57:38 GMT -5
ps how much do you adore their love confessions to each other in this one? It's the only time we here them both say it in one scene. You know this scene breaks my heart On the one hand, as you already mentioned it, it is the only time we hear them both say it to each other so genuinely, so sweet, so openly - the moment to die for. On the other hand, I can't be absolutely happy about this scene, yes they say their I love yous but...there is this bitter note of good bye in their words. The way they deliver the words makes it clear that something sad will happen, something really bad. p.s. thank you dear, I've always loved them dancing
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maud
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Post by maud on Mar 7, 2014 13:24:53 GMT -5
I originally did not like this episode, but I re-watched it, read this board and then watched it again. I like it a lot more. I think it actually is very in character for both of them.
David is comfortable in spontaneity and lives his life by following his heart. And he is doing that here, so there is no issue for him. In David's mind, he loves her and everything else is going to take care of itself. Maddie analyzes everything to death and has to think A LOT before making a decision. Is it really that surprising that she does not know how she feels? This has been a four week roller-coaster ride for her that hasn't stopped. She has never in her life been on a ride like this one nor has she ever felt a love this deep. If she were "any more committed (she) would be inside out". Maddie doesn't do "inside out". Her guts are hanging out there involuntarily in the sense that she did not make a conscious, well-thought out decision to put them there. She feels empty inside because she doesn't know how she feels for the first time in her entire life. Maddie has done so much thinking in her life that she knows how she fells about EVERYTHING until now. Except this.
The David is "driving this bus" concept is interesting in the sense that Maddie's subconscious may think that David is driving this bus because this bus is the bus from the movie "Speed" - it's Mr. Addison's Wild Ride! However, the inescapable irony here is that it is really MADDIE who is driving this bus. David would do anything for her - "Tell me what to do and I'll do it." Maddie is actually in control here - she just doesn't realize it.
I disagree with Bruce's comment that David would not announce his love for her to the office. David is desperate here! She's "ambivalent" about this relationship and telling him she wants to end it. He pulls out (finally) all the stops with this proclamation. "Baring his soul is not David's strong suit." But he does it here for Maddie because he knows it's what she has wanted. She has been pushing for it since this whole thing started ("you haven't said a word David.") His declaration is eloquent, romantic and just about as damn charming as you can get. It's storybook! As far as the invisible prowler bit, it's the same thing only the opposite - it is desperate in an uncomfortable way. This is David having to do his best "David" to get her to come back outside. He is desperate and uncomfortable (he even told her how nervous he was). And Maddie does come back outside. And when does she come out? When he starts to really leave, and at the end of the day, she fundamentally knows she doesn't want him to.
I think David lets her leave the laundry without a fight because he KNOWS her that well. He knows she needs time, and he is not going to win her by pressuring her. "If you love something set it free, and if it comes back to you it was and always will be yours." He FINALLY has a freaking clue ("a clue a clue a clue")! If he backs off, she chases him - she does it all the time! During the greatest scene of scenes ("Be My Baby"), he tells her that she is "not worth it", grabs his clothes and heads downstairs. If Maddie really wanted him to leave, that would have been that. But of course, it isn't. She runs after him folks! She prolongs the arguments because she does not really want him to go. In the bit with prowler, maybe David finally learned that if he starts to walk away, she comes running.
Off to watch the next episode in this DVD watch-a-thon!
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on Apr 12, 2017 12:04:53 GMT -5
David is comfortable in spontaneity and lives his life by following his heart. And he is doing that here, so there is no issue for him. In David's mind, he loves her and everything else is going to take care of itself. Maddie analyzes everything to death and has to think A LOT before making a decision. Is it really that surprising that she does not know how she feels? This has been a four week roller-coaster ride for her that hasn't stopped. She has never in her life been on a ride like this one nor has she ever felt a love this deep. If she were "any more committed (she) would be inside out". Maddie doesn't do "inside out". Her guts are hanging out there involuntarily in the sense that she did not make a conscious, well-thought out decision to put them there. She feels empty inside because she doesn't know how she feels for the first time in her entire life. Maddie has done so much thinking in her life that she knows how she fells about EVERYTHING until now. Except this. The David is "driving this bus" concept is interesting in the sense that Maddie's subconscious may think that David is driving this bus because this bus is the bus from the movie "Speed" - it's Mr. Addison's Wild Ride! However, the inescapable irony here is that it is really MADDIE who is driving this bus. David would do anything for her - "Tell me what to do and I'll do it." Maddie is actually in control here - she just doesn't realize it. I disagree with Bruce's comment that David would not announce his love for her to the office. David is desperate here! She's "ambivalent" about this relationship and telling him she wants to end it. He pulls out (finally) all the stops with this proclamation. "Baring his soul is not David's strong suit." But he does it here for Maddie because he knows it's what she has wanted. She has been pushing for it since this whole thing started ("you haven't said a word David.") His declaration is eloquent, romantic and just about as damn charming as you can get. It's storybook! As far as the invisible prowler bit, it's the same thing only the opposite - it is desperate in an uncomfortable way. This is David having to do his best "David" to get her to come back outside. He is desperate and uncomfortable (he even told her how nervous he was). And Maddie does come back outside. And when does she come out? When he starts to really leave, and at the end of the day, she fundamentally knows she doesn't want him to. Hi Maud. You probably don't visit this site anymore. While I'm quoting you, my vent is not really directed to you. Since hardly anyone comes here anymore, I type here just as an exercise in writing, using a pleasant topic, one of my all-time favorite shows! (even though the warm and fuzzies may be absent from quite a few of my posts.) So here goes : I think men tend to follow a woman's lead in a relationship. In other words, as long as there's a physical relationship and the woman isn't mean to him, everything else is "whatever." A woman sets the tone for the "whatever" part. David seemed content to just meet up and spend the night with her after work, thinking that they're in a relationship so the details will fall into place. If Maddie wasn't happy with that she should have opened her mouth and told the man exactly what was wrong. She almost acted like she was with David under duress. She never showed any appreciation for the physical side of their relationship, yet she willingly participated in that for a solid month. If she wanted a different kind of relationship, she should have discussed it with him, not leave town without telling David and run like a child to her parents house to sit around and brood like someone died for four months. So what she was pregnant? Women get pregnant all the time. They just don't all have the support system Maddie had. I mean, who do you know who can just check out of their life and leave their job and a major relationship in another city - leave it all behind - to go and just THINK (and mope) for four months?? Come on! Sorry, but I don't sympathize with Miss Blue Moon Girl very much in this situation. And believe it or not I've actually gone back and forth about it. This is how I feel about it today. lol It just seemed like the real problem in all this was that she didn't think David was good enough for her, meaning that she thought she was a better person than him, not just that they were incompatible, but incompatible because he was not good enough for her - which makes her what he called her in the laundromat and didn't take back. I know some or most will disagree with me. The irony is that between the two of them Maddie acted like the mean-spirited, uncommunicative child in the relationship. The worst David did was to interrupt her dinner with Sam and make a complete fool out of himself and not opening his mouth about his feelings when Maddie directly asked him to. Also, he was a tad cavalier in IACM when it seemed like he thought Maddie should just kiss and make out after having made himself at home in her bed. No conversation, no nothing. The "you know it and I know it" might have been true, but some words needed to be said. I mean, Maddie just got finished sleeping with one guy and David kinda acted like "Ok, he's gone. Now it's my turn." Nah, doesn't work that way. However, once they did get together, she just tuned out and refused to engage while voluntarily sleeping with him. Sorry to say it but in season four - actually starting with the whole "pact" business - Maddie's character was written as a somewhat weak and cowardly woman. As some have said before, the writers made David the long suffering martyr and Maddie the scatterbrained "bad guy." I'll end my rant by saying thank goodness for corrective fanfic! (I'm actually writing a Moonlighting fanfic as we speak. Stay tuned!)
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Post by beesnbears on Apr 15, 2017 13:13:51 GMT -5
Dear maud and maddieaddisonjr, I love your rants! It's sad that it's been so quiet around here.....I check in every now and then. I still get the fuzzies when I read a new post! I miss everyone!❤❤ Looking forward to that fanfic maddiejr!! David is comfortable in spontaneity and lives his life by following his heart. And he is doing that here, so there is no issue for him. In David's mind, he loves her and everything else is going to take care of itself. Maddie analyzes everything to death and has to think A LOT before making a decision. Is it really that surprising that she does not know how she feels? This has been a four week roller-coaster ride for her that hasn't stopped. She has never in her life been on a ride like this one nor has she ever felt a love this deep. If she were "any more committed (she) would be inside out". Maddie doesn't do "inside out". Her guts are hanging out there involuntarily in the sense that she did not make a conscious, well-thought out decision to put them there. She feels empty inside because she doesn't know how she feels for the first time in her entire life. Maddie has done so much thinking in her life that she knows how she fells about EVERYTHING until now. Except this. The David is "driving this bus" concept is interesting in the sense that Maddie's subconscious may think that David is driving this bus because this bus is the bus from the movie "Speed" - it's Mr. Addison's Wild Ride! However, the inescapable irony here is that it is really MADDIE who is driving this bus. David would do anything for her - "Tell me what to do and I'll do it." Maddie is actually in control here - she just doesn't realize it. I disagree with Bruce's comment that David would not announce his love for her to the office. David is desperate here! She's "ambivalent" about this relationship and telling him she wants to end it. He pulls out (finally) all the stops with this proclamation. "Baring his soul is not David's strong suit." But he does it here for Maddie because he knows it's what she has wanted. She has been pushing for it since this whole thing started ("you haven't said a word David.") His declaration is eloquent, romantic and just about as damn charming as you can get. It's storybook! As far as the invisible prowler bit, it's the same thing only the opposite - it is desperate in an uncomfortable way. This is David having to do his best "David" to get her to come back outside. He is desperate and uncomfortable (he even told her how nervous he was). And Maddie does come back outside. And when does she come out? When he starts to really leave, and at the end of the day, she fundamentally knows she doesn't want him to. Hi Maud. You probably don't visit this site anymore. While I'm quoting you, my vent is not really directed to you. Since hardly anyone comes here anymore, I type here just as an exercise in writing, using a pleasant topic, one of my all-time favorite shows! (even though the warm and fuzzies may be absent from quite a few of my posts.) So here goes : I think men tend to follow a woman's lead in a relationship. In other words, as long as there's a physical relationship and the woman isn't mean to him, everything else is "whatever." A woman sets the tone for the "whatever" part. David seemed content to just meet up and spend the night with her after work, thinking that they're in a relationship so the details will fall into place. If Maddie wasn't happy with that she should have opened her mouth and told the man exactly what was wrong. She almost acted like she was with David under duress. She never showed any appreciation for the physical side of their relationship, yet she willingly participated in that for a solid month. If she wanted a different kind of relationship, she should have discussed it with him, not leave town without telling David and run like a child to her parents house to sit around and brood like someone died for four months. So what she was pregnant? Women get pregnant all the time. They just don't all have the support system Maddie had. I mean, who do you know who can just check out of their life and leave their job and a major relationship in another city - leave it all behind - to go and just THINK (and mope) for four months?? Come on! Sorry, but I don't sympathize with Miss Blue Moon Girl very much in this situation. And believe it or not I've actually gone back and forth about it. This is how I feel about it today. lol It just seemed like the real problem in all this was that she didn't think David was good enough for her, meaning that she thought she was a better person than him, not just that they were incompatible, but incompatible because he was not good enough for her - which makes her what he called her in the laundromat and didn't take back. I know some or most will disagree with me. The irony is that between the two of them Maddie acted like the mean-spirited, uncommunicative child in the relationship. The worst David did was to interrupt her dinner with Sam and make a complete fool out of himself and not opening his mouth about his feelings when Maddie directly asked him to. Also, he was a tad cavalier in IACM when it seemed like he thought Maddie should just kiss and make out after having made himself at home in her bed. No conversation, no nothing. The "you know it and I know it" might have been true, but some words needed to be said. I mean, Maddie just got finished sleeping with one guy and David kinda acted like "Ok, he's gone. Now it's my turn." Nah, doesn't work that way. However, once they did get together, she just tuned out and refused to engage while voluntarily sleeping with him. Sorry to say it but in season four - actually starting with the whole "pact" business - Maddie's character was written as a somewhat weak and cowardly woman. As some have said before, the writers made David the long suffering martyr and Maddie the scatterbrained "bad guy." I'll end my rant by saying thank goodness for corrective fanfic! (I'm actually writing a Moonlighting fanfic as we speak. Stay tuned!)
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Post by maud on Apr 18, 2017 11:28:47 GMT -5
David is comfortable in spontaneity and lives his life by following his heart. And he is doing that here, so there is no issue for him. In David's mind, he loves her and everything else is going to take care of itself. Maddie analyzes everything to death and has to think A LOT before making a decision. Is it really that surprising that she does not know how she feels? This has been a four week roller-coaster ride for her that hasn't stopped. She has never in her life been on a ride like this one nor has she ever felt a love this deep. If she were "any more committed (she) would be inside out". Maddie doesn't do "inside out". Her guts are hanging out there involuntarily in the sense that she did not make a conscious, well-thought out decision to put them there. She feels empty inside because she doesn't know how she feels for the first time in her entire life. Maddie has done so much thinking in her life that she knows how she fells about EVERYTHING until now. Except this. The David is "driving this bus" concept is interesting in the sense that Maddie's subconscious may think that David is driving this bus because this bus is the bus from the movie "Speed" - it's Mr. Addison's Wild Ride! However, the inescapable irony here is that it is really MADDIE who is driving this bus. David would do anything for her - "Tell me what to do and I'll do it." Maddie is actually in control here - she just doesn't realize it. I disagree with Bruce's comment that David would not announce his love for her to the office. David is desperate here! She's "ambivalent" about this relationship and telling him she wants to end it. He pulls out (finally) all the stops with this proclamation. "Baring his soul is not David's strong suit." But he does it here for Maddie because he knows it's what she has wanted. She has been pushing for it since this whole thing started ("you haven't said a word David.") His declaration is eloquent, romantic and just about as damn charming as you can get. It's storybook! As far as the invisible prowler bit, it's the same thing only the opposite - it is desperate in an uncomfortable way. This is David having to do his best "David" to get her to come back outside. He is desperate and uncomfortable (he even told her how nervous he was). And Maddie does come back outside. And when does she come out? When he starts to really leave, and at the end of the day, she fundamentally knows she doesn't want him to. Hi Maud. You probably don't visit this site anymore. While I'm quoting you, my vent is not really directed to you. Since hardly anyone comes here anymore, I type here just as an exercise in writing, using a pleasant topic, one of my all-time favorite shows! (even though the warm and fuzzies may be absent from quite a few of my posts.) So here goes : I think men tend to follow a woman's lead in a relationship. In other words, as long as there's a physical relationship and the woman isn't mean to him, everything else is "whatever." A woman sets the tone for the "whatever" part. David seemed content to just meet up and spend the night with her after work, thinking that they're in a relationship so the details will fall into place. If Maddie wasn't happy with that she should have opened her mouth and told the man exactly what was wrong. She almost acted like she was with David under duress. She never showed any appreciation for the physical side of their relationship, yet she willingly participated in that for a solid month. If she wanted a different kind of relationship, she should have discussed it with him, not leave town without telling David and run like a child to her parents house to sit around and brood like someone died for four months. So what she was pregnant? Women get pregnant all the time. They just don't all have the support system Maddie had. I mean, who do you know who can just check out of their life and leave their job and a major relationship in another city - leave it all behind - to go and just THINK (and mope) for four months?? Come on! Sorry, but I don't sympathize with Miss Blue Moon Girl very much in this situation. And believe it or not I've actually gone back and forth about it. This is how I feel about it today. lol It just seemed like the real problem in all this was that she didn't think David was good enough for her, meaning that she thought she was a better person than him, not just that they were incompatible, but incompatible because he was not good enough for her - which makes her what he called her in the laundromat and didn't take back. I know some or most will disagree with me. The irony is that between the two of them Maddie acted like the mean-spirited, uncommunicative child in the relationship. The worst David did was to interrupt her dinner with Sam and make a complete fool out of himself and not opening his mouth about his feelings when Maddie directly asked him to. Also, he was a tad cavalier in IACM when it seemed like he thought Maddie should just kiss and make out after having made himself at home in her bed. No conversation, no nothing. The "you know it and I know it" might have been true, but some words needed to be said. I mean, Maddie just got finished sleeping with one guy and David kinda acted like "Ok, he's gone. Now it's my turn." Nah, doesn't work that way. However, once they did get together, she just tuned out and refused to engage while voluntarily sleeping with him. Sorry to say it but in season four - actually starting with the whole "pact" business - Maddie's character was written as a somewhat weak and cowardly woman. As some have said before, the writers made David the long suffering martyr and Maddie the scatterbrained "bad guy." I'll end my rant by saying thank goodness for corrective fanfic! (I'm actually writing a Moonlighting fanfic as we speak. Stay tuned!) Of course I check in now and again! I do agree with you when you say, "It just seemed like the real problem in all this was that she didn't think David was good enough for her, meaning that she thought she was a better person than him, not just that they were incompatible, but incompatible because he was not good enough for her - which makes her what he called her in the laundromat and didn't take back.". Maddie Hayes thought she was going to get her pick of a litter of rich, handsome, successful men. Then she fell in love with David who IS a wonderful guy but not the perfect on paper mate she had made lists about all her life. Can't you see her now? Sitting on her bed with perfumed writing paper drawing three columns to construct her perfect man: "Must Haves", "Would Like to Haves" and "Dealbreakers"? 3 years after my re-watch binge and posts on this site, I will have to say this... not every great love story is destined to end with "happily ever after." They ARE a great love story. In retrospect, let's say they had the baby, had gotten married and she'd given David a chance... I think they would have made each other miserable until she ran screaming into the night. Maddie is a control freak. And at the end of the day, with a child in the mix, I doubt she would have been ever to just relax and live with the certain degree of spontaneity, uncertainty and irreverence that comes with the David Addison package. And that is very sad. But people love other people deeply that they simply can't live with all the time. I AM staying tuned for the fanfic! And how great is it that we are still talking about this 30 years later!
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on Apr 20, 2017 11:32:50 GMT -5
Hi Bees and Maud, Yay, new posts! lol I do agree with you Maud that in real life it's not always for the best to live with or have a relationship with someone you might love very much. Sometimes people love each other but they just aren't compatible enough for that. However, in TV romantic dramedies, it's kind of a drag to come across such a relationship. If the show lasted longer than it did but David and Maddie's "hopeless" love was always a factor underlying everything, it would get tiresome. The relationship needed to be solidified or David and Maddie needed to part ways - meaning the end of the show. I mean, the cases were never fascinating enough to stand on their own, with David and Maddie just two "pals" who cared about each other going through the motions of being working stiffs every day. Not what I tuned in for. I would venture to say that everyone watched for the relationship. Look what happened when they turned D/M into a version of the Three Stooges (or rather Two) in season five. The ratings and more importantly the quality of the show got so bad that the producers didn't even take the time to wrap up the series properly. No one cared anymore. That's why they had some no-name dude write the final episode and it showed. No offense to the no-name dude but almost anybody could have written a better final script than he did. I mean, come on.
Maddie was handed the "perfect worthy man" on a platter (Sham,...ah, excuse me, Sam). But she basically said she loved someone else (David) too much to love Sam enough. So she loves David too much to pick another guy, BUT David's just not good enough for her. (Huh??) Well, only the single life is left, but she seemed to still want a man of her own eventually. Therefore, what Maddie should have done was try to change to have what she wanted or be committed to the single life. David actually had changed. Maddie wasn't willing to, so in the end she got what that kind of rigidity brings - nothing.
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Post by noflies on May 26, 2017 7:40:31 GMT -5
Hello Maud, maddieaddisonjr and beesnbears!
So nice to read your posts! Maybe what Maddie needed was a REAL break, not a 4-month-rollercoaster time while being pregnant. Imagine they went their separate ways during a couple of years, maybe in different cities, and then meet again? Maybe Maddie would have had time to FINALLY realize that everything she thought she needed in a man was not what could make her happy and make her feel what she felt with David? What if she realizes that, and David is not in a relationship when they meet again, that could have been a great episode, don't you think? Maybe I am too "girly" here....
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Post by manitobadesigner on May 30, 2017 12:40:32 GMT -5
You girlies are awesome, such great points. You know when Ray Charles showed up and basically called Dave out for being so whipped, I was like "WTF YEAH HE IS!" I never realized how Maddie's rigidity and rulebook had that effect on him until that moment. Then I was rooting for him to walk away at least until she could figure it out on her own. And you know what, I bet if he did, she would have. That's where the relationship should have gone. I do think Maddie needed a break. In real life, someone like that would consult with her friends, but Maddie never had any - neither of them did! Hence, the addition of Joyce Brothers was sort of a poor substitute for one, and she really didn't take away anything significant from her 'session' except that she was ambivalent. I hate that word! Hello Maud, maddieaddisonjr and beesnbears! So nice to read your posts! Maybe what Maddie needed was a REAL break, not a 4-month-rollercoaster time while being pregnant. Imagine they went their separate ways during a couple of years, maybe in different cities, and then meet again? Maybe Maddie would have had time to FINALLY realize that everything she thought she needed in a man was not what could make her happy and make her feel what she felt with David? What if she realizes that, and David is not in a relationship when they meet again, that could have been a great episode, don't you think? Maybe I am too "girly" here....
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on Jul 13, 2017 15:27:50 GMT -5
I never realized how Maddie's rigidity and rulebook had that effect on him until that moment. Then I was rooting for him to walk away at least until she could figure it out on her own. And you know what, I bet if he did, she would have. That's where the relationship should have gone.... ambivalent. I hate that word! Hi Manitoba, I agree with you that if David just said, "Forget this, I'm through," and really acted like it, Maddie Hayes would have eventually come after him--eventually, but she might have waited until it was too late with all that extra thinking she loved to do. Oy! As for the word "ambivalent"...I just don't see how at that point in their long relationship--and I mean from the day they met--that Maddie would feel that way about David Addison. She was a grown woman dealing with a grown (contrary to popular belief!) man. Did she want him or not??? Pick one and get on with it. Sheesh!
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Post by manitobadesigner on Jul 19, 2017 17:31:01 GMT -5
I never realized how Maddie's rigidity and rulebook had that effect on him until that moment. Then I was rooting for him to walk away at least until she could figure it out on her own. And you know what, I bet if he did, she would have. That's where the relationship should have gone.... ambivalent. I hate that word! Hi Manitoba, I agree with you that if David just said, "Forget this, I'm through," and really acted like it, Maddie Hayes would have eventually come after him--eventually, but she might have waited until it was too late with all that extra thinking she loved to do. Oy! As for the word "ambivalent"...I just don't see how at that point in their long relationship--and I mean from the day they met--that Maddie would feel that way about David Addison. She was a grown woman dealing with a grown (contrary to popular belief!) man. Did she want him or not??? Pick one and get on with it. Sheesh! YES, I would have loved to have seen it play that way. And it was such an easy solution too. It also has the bonus effect of creating more sexual tension, which everyone complained had disappeared after IACM. And I agree that her endless deliberation/overthinking was a huge problem. I don't understand it either, beyond her obvious fear/freakout/loss of control. If I were Dave, I would have been like "You can't control this so sh*t or get off the pot." She definitely needed to come to that decision on her own, frustrating as it was to wait (4.5 months!) I give her credit for at least coming back but YEEESH, so much damage.
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Post by maud on Jul 20, 2017 18:25:42 GMT -5
Hello Maud, maddieaddisonjr and beesnbears! So nice to read your posts! Maybe what Maddie needed was a REAL break, not a 4-month-rollercoaster time while being pregnant. Imagine they went their separate ways during a couple of years, maybe in different cities, and then meet again? Maybe Maddie would have had time to FINALLY realize that everything she thought she needed in a man was not what could make her happy and make her feel what she felt with David? What if she realizes that, and David is not in a relationship when they meet again, that could have been a great episode, don't you think? Maybe I am too "girly" here.... I don't think that's girly - I think in real life, it'd be likely. When I consider a Moonlighting reunion 3 decades later, it would go something like this.... David is super-successful. Let's say brother Richie got David to invest in one of his get rich quick schemes, and they actually got rich quick! And of course, Richie couldn't manage a thing, so David managed their money and invested well. David lives in a swank apartment in NYC with his two daughters - one in her senior year of college and one in law school at Columbia. He married a wonderful woman (of course there would be a picture of Bruce and Demi in a frame) who was a doctor that died young tragically. They were very happily married for 20 years. Meanwhile, Maddie is disappointed and jaded. Let's call it a failed marriage (or two) - she never found what she was looking for, in a man or anything else. No kids. She goes to NYC where she and David are reunited at Agnes'(?) or Burt's (?) funeral. Burt runs his own highly successful PI firm in NYC. The "funeral" is a just a scam for a case Burt is investigating... and the wackiness begins.... And, there will definitely be a scene where Maddie completely mistakes David's daughter(s) for his girlfriend(s) and has to eat crow....
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Post by maddieaddisonjr on Aug 9, 2017 15:11:35 GMT -5
Hi Maud. This plot would make a grrrrreat fanfic. Thinking of writing it? If so, I want to read it!
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Post by vic on Oct 31, 2018 15:08:03 GMT -5
I'm watching this episode now.
First off, it starts out kind of bad. We just went over this "this-affair-isn't-right" in the previous episode. And Shepherd, looks a little hard faced, outfits not that great, and she's being pretty mean to David. I also didn't like how they even admit that their relationship based around the bed. So they haven't gone on any dates or anything in that time? Damn.
I would have thought that we would have gotten some passionate, romantic scenes before Maddie started questioning where this is heading. The relationship, or affair, is pretty mundane. They just sleep together, and the audience gets to see the boring stuff after like "should I bring a toothbrush for next time?"
Maddie is not that likable here. And David is kind of dumb. I would think even someone like him would have bought REAL flowers. And apparently it would have worked had they been real. He already knows what Maddie expects from episodes like "Symphony in Knocked Flat," so at least meet her half way and so some of that romantic stuff. I always thought David Addison was a little more suave than this.
But when they get to the laundromat...for some reason this felt perfect. The atmosphere made it feel like some dramatic film. It was romantic. It wasn't easy for them, it wasn't perfect, but that's what made it perfect. It's very "David" and, unplanned, but still atmospheric, romantic, and real. For me, this is the series finale, except this episode ends with David and Maddie dancing together, and Maddie NOT ending the dance short on a "I have to think about it.
Instead David tells her that nothing is perfect, and there's always going to be uncertainty but he tells her "I love you Maddie Hayes," "I'll do anything to make it work. Let's just try. She admits that she's scared but she can't imagine anyone else for her. Continue dancing fade out...
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Post by sandra on Sept 29, 2020 3:40:23 GMT -5
On another note…I gotta say though…14 hours? My man Dave! Hahahahaha! I laughed so hard at this! I remember thinking the exact same thing when I saw this bit. "I know what it's like to be in bed with you for 14 hours." I was like; Whoa! 14 Hours?! Hot damn! Okay, so I've just read all posts under this episode and it makes me sad that the board is so quiet nowadays. Before I read everyone's take on ATTTM here, my thoughts on it were that it was an exhausting episode, emotionally speaking. I never expected to laugh so much over some stuff that happened in it, or come to the realization that yes, Maddie always chases David after he attempts to walk away. They should have done more with that fact, indeed. Maybe that would have opened her eyes. Thank you, all, for putting this episode in a different light for me.
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Post by essed on Oct 13, 2020 19:25:50 GMT -5
The episode commentary ruined everything else that I liked but they can’t take away my love of the laundromat scene. Just perfect. Also, thanks for the vocabulary word, Maddie! I crammed ambivalent into every school report during my 6th grade year.
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